Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: New England USA
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Creative ideas for loading 38''''er on trailer w/out crane?
While the ribald comments regarding your boat''s condition may upset you, there is a good bit of truth here. We''re sailors here, different by nature to the rest of the planet, and maybe a little off center (just ask any powerboater!).
But I think you have underestimated your costs to a STAGGERING degree.
You may have done this already, but it is time to sit down with a pad and paper and calculater and get a handle on it. Wiring at $1/foot, batteries at $250 EACH for 4D lead acid. VHF, Charger, switch gear, lights, etc. Hoses, through hulls, seacocks, lifelines. Running rigging will make you swallow hard as well. Small snatch blocks are $125/each! Anchor rodes, chain, shackles. Stove, water pump, tanks. Rebuilding the engine, transmission. Just because it might turn by hand does not mean it will run. Rebuild by yourself may cost a couple of thousand alone. A new one will be over $10,000. The list goes on and on and on...
Your estimate of the salvage worth of the hardware included with the sale may a bit optimistic. Used wiches are worth hundreds, not thousands, winch handels 5 bucks, old anchors maybe 10 bucks. The lump of iron you optimistically call an engine has no value. The mast may be worth a couple of dollars per pound to a salvage operation. Probably the greatest value is the few hundred dollars worth of lead in the keel, less it''s transport cost.
The value of the boat in "Bristol" condition is for one that has had a well documented history of care, maintenance, and shows like a new penny. Not something peiced together by someone who may or may not have the proper skills to do the job.
A major concern I stated was the lack of bulkheads and longitudinals inside the hull. While your brother may be a crack cabinate maker, what does he know about propper tabbing technique? Why is the port side stipped away in the first place? Maybe Sasha had a point regarding a portside hard grounding.
Jeff H pointed out his concerns regarding the keel. In materials alone, you will spend thousands doing a PROPER repair. Not to mention the required skill to do it correctly. That is not something you can trifle with. To hire a professional to to it would cost thousands more.
Trecksail, please don''t misunderstand. If there was some sentimental value to the rebuild project or you were attempting to restore a rare peice of nautical history, knock yourself out. I may be unique in this forum, having taken on a restoration project of my own. I mentioned I have spent tens of thousands of dollars, and I am a VERY capable and knowlegdeable person regarding boats, having spent years working in marinas, having an degree in Oceanographic Engineering and tons of practical experiance. I chose my boat for sentimental reasons, but it also far in far better shape to begin with. It took 6 months of working every weekend and evenings before it was ready to even float, not to mention being seaworthy.
If you are looking for a cheap way to get on the water, buy a sunfish. The Irwin was never a highly regarded boat when it was new. I humbly submitt that you will spend over $30,000 in material alone, not to mention the labor investment, and you will have a boat that will never be worth more than $20,000 due to its history. There are better projects out there.