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Re: Best U.S. city for sailing, living aboard, working

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I got too curious and had to get nerdy about this.

I pulled a list of the 100 largest metro areas on the US. This is basically every metro area of 1/2 million or more.

I threw out any metro area that is not on a major body of water (ocean or great lake). This left 38 on the list.

I threw out any metro area where people do not normally sail year round (on the East coast I used DC and south for year around sailing. Not sure if this is correct or not). This left 21 on the list.

Finally I threw out any metro area with an unemployment rate >=7%. I ended up with 7 metro areas remaining. A brief google of threads discussing live aboard marinas makes me thing I can throw Honolulu and San Fran off the list.

So that leaves 5 areas(with unemployment rate) [and population]:

Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC MSA (5.2%) [1.8 million]
Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA MSA (5.3%) [3.5 million]
Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX MSA (6.2%) [6 million]
Charleston-North Charleston-Summerville, SC MSA (6.3%) [700,000]
Cape Coral-Fort Myers, FL MSA (6.8%) [600,000]

All of these seem like really nice sailing areas, so pick your favorite climate/size

between 7% and 8% unemployment you can add:

McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX MSA
North Port-Bradenton-Sarasota, FL MSA
Jacksonville, FL MSA
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MSA
Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL MSA
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA MSA
Palm Bay-Melbourne-Titusville, FL MSA

Great list of cities!

I put another spin on it. I checked to see what kind of population growth these metros are getting from Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas Totals: Vintage 2012 - U.S Census Bureau

So here's that list of cities and the population growth they have had since 2010.

1. Charleston-North Charleston-Summerville, SC 4.9%
2. Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX 4.3%
2. Cape Coral-Fort Myers, FL 4.3%
4. McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX 4.1%
5. Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA 3.3%
6. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA 3.1%
7. San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA 2.6%
8. North Port-Bradenton-Sarasota, FL 2.5%
9. Jacksonville, FL 2.4%
10. Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL 2.1%
11. Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC 1.4%
12. Palm Bay-Melbourne-Titusville, FL 0.7%
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Re: Best U.S. city for sailing, living aboard, working

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1. Charleston-North Charleston-Summerville, SC 4.9%
2. Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX 4.3%
2. Cape Coral-Fort Myers, FL 4.3%
4. McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX 4.1%
5. Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA MSA 3.3%
6. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA 3.1%
7. San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA 2.6%
8. North Port-Bradenton-Sarasota, FL 2.5%
9. Jacksonville, FL 2.4%
10. Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL 2.1%
11. Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC 1.4%
12. Palm Bay-Melbourne-Titusville, FL 0.7%
Having been to most of these cities (not on a boat) these are great cities.

Charleston is one of my favorite vacation places. Beautiful
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San Diego or Annapolis. Both have decent transportation/walking, good to great sailing, and job markets. In Annapolis you could work in Baltimore or DC. If you can't find a job, you aren't looking.
Climate in both cities are very different. You can sail year round in San Diego but Annapolis gets pretty cold November through end of February with a risk to see the water freeze around you..Summers in Annapolis can also be very hot and humid, you'd definitely need AC in your boat.
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A couple of points about San Diego from someone who was raised here and moved back in 94. Liveaboard from 94 to 99, 2000 to 2011.

1. Weather is great - not too hot in summer particularly on the coast largely due to the California current keeping the surface water temps below 70. Winters are
mild.

2. Winds are generally mild, its rare that it breaks 20.

3. Traffic, lengths of commutes, number of people are no where near Los Angeles, OC.

4. Mostly day-sailing. Places to visit/anchor over a normal weekend are limited to spots in San Diego Bay and one anchorage in Mission Bay. San Clemete Island Pyramid Cove, Ensenada and Santa Catalina Island are all 60+ nautical miles away.

5. Marinas have opened up a bit, with the past economic downturn and raise in fuel cost. In the marina I am in the ratio of sailboats to powerboats have changed. The powerboats that remain seem to belong to dedicated fishermen and people from out of state using them as vacation cottages.

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Re: Best U.S. city for sailing, living aboard, working

We've lived aboard in Seattle and San Diego and now have our boat in Galveston Bay.

Living aboard and general living in San Diego is great, but the sailing is actually quite boring. You have a long days sail to get to Catalina Island where it gets interesting.

In comparison the variety of sailing in Puget Sound / Salish Sea is nirvana.

If I could pick a place that is nice to live and a nice place to sail I would pick Bellingham, WA, Friday Harbor, WA, somewhere on Orcas Island, or Port Townsend, WA... Now to find a job in one of those places.
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