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markcash 03-18-2005 06:43 AM

Fishing
 
What are the best ways to fish from a sailboat? All of my fishing experience involves flyrods and ultra-light fly rods and mountain streams. Seems to me there are some pretty big fish out there that regularly make their way to the menu on the laid-back sailboats and I''d like to know a little more about get them into my diet!

macswift 10-26-2013 03:39 AM

Re: Fishing
 
Hi Mark
The words 'ultra-light' and 'sailboat-fishing' should never be used in the same sentence!
But you don't need expensive, complicated gear - and you can see exactly how to go about it at Handline Fishing from a Sailboat Will Keep the Crew Well Fed

downeast450 10-26-2013 04:45 AM

Re: Fishing
 
Mac,

As an avid trout and salmon fly rod fisherman, myself, I only use a fly rod on dinghy fishing excursions while anchored. I am rarely in a situation that makes sense when sailing. Maine has many salt water fishing opportunities worthy of becoming cruise destinations in their own right. I take a 9 x 9 Orvis graphite rod and saltwater reel with me aboard the boat. Rocket tapers for turning over large flies.

We do fish while sailing and go sailing to fish. There are many productive shoals along the Maine coast. Depths from 30' to 300' that become "holding places" for fish. We plan fishing lunches as we cruise. Under favorable conditions we hove to and drift a shoal with a hand line. I hold 300' of heavy mono line on a 1' x 18" piece of plywood, notched on the longer ends to gather the line. I split a 2x4 and made a handle along one long edge by attaching each half on opposite sides. I have shaped the "handle" a little to fit my hand comfortably. It is the best place to store the hooks, too. A soft piece of fir helps. I rig it with a large Cod Jig as the end weight. Sometimes I remove the treble hook from it and bounce it along the bottom. Above it the baited hooks ride a couple of feet apart. Three or four of these on 18" leaders is plenty. A gaff, a net, even a spear gun can make landing a fish successful and safe. Food! Caught from your floating dock, while you had a comfortable lunch. Unlock the wheel and head for your anchorage. You can't get fresher fish for dinner! It ain't catching a salmon on a bomber or a brookie on a may fly but I love fresh fish!

Down

Minnewaska 10-26-2013 08:07 AM

Re: Fishing
 
A buddy does many deliveries to Bermuda and the Caribbean. He has what resembles a hose reel with zillion pound test on it. It clamps to the pushpit. He pays it out and just cruises along. When a fish bites (and one always does eventually on multi-day passages), they just drag it until it gives up and they reel it in. I've seen pics of tuna and other species. It's not a Sunday morning fishing trip to get your mind off things, it's more a commercial approach to finding food.

Ninefingers 10-26-2013 11:43 AM

Re: Fishing
 
In light wind days, we'll troll for salmon and trout in Lake Ontario. I use a 10' trolling rod with a dipsy diver that gets the lure down to about 70 feet. The hard part is keeping the boat around 2knts! That's the best speed for trout and salmon here.

TQA 10-26-2013 04:14 PM

Re: Fishing
 
100lb BS nylon with a pink squid and a 2 oz bullet works for me. No rod but a bit of bungee helps on the short one.

One at 300ft one at 200 ft and one just skipping on the surface.

The fish goes WTF

Hmm squid --- am I hungry??

YES I am having the next one!

Keep a little spray bottle with some strong rum in it. One squirt in the gills and they die happy instantly.

billyruffn 10-26-2013 04:46 PM

Re: Fishing
 
I use a 120 lb monofil line, wire leader and and relatively small lures -- rubber squids, or 5" tuna plugs, for example (if you use big lures you catch big fish which you really don't want to deal with). I attach the line to a bicycle inner tube which is attached to the stern pulpit. I use a bell attached to the inner tube to alert me to "fish on".

I do not slow down or otherwise try to accommodate the fish -- they either bite or they don't, their choice. That's probably why I average one fish per 1000 lure miles. We might heave-to to fight the fish, but usually just drag them a while until they drown.

It's really not fishing, at least in the usual sense of the term.

P.S. Offshore they usually bite at dawn and dusk.

capta 10-26-2013 05:34 PM

Re: Fishing
 
A hand line with line of sufficient size to be comfortable in your hand, using a pair of leather gloves will do fine. A pole will not as you can't "pump" if you don't stop the boat. Set the hand line from the quarter, not the stern or the lure becomes lost in the swirl. A heavy shock cord at the onboard end is an absolute necessity. Use good quality swivel snaps to attach leader (wire) to hand line.
Set the lure twice the length of the boat at six knots, shorter if slower, longer if faster (not critical, but a good gauge for distance). You want to see the lure "bubbling down the face of the second wave back, if possible. Remember it is the boat that attracts the fish; if the lure is too far out it won't work as well. Also by fishing off the quarter the line is affected by the quarter wake which causes added motion to the lure.
Specific colors and lures for dolphin; green/yellow, tuna; red/white, wahoo; purple, all feather lures with a metal head often with red eyes about 1 oz. I generally use a blue/white plastic squid with a 1/2 to 3/4 ounce egg sinker in the head, a good all fish lure, but not the best if targeting specific fish. The faster you go, for tropical pelagic fish, the better; I have hooked plenty of fish at 17 knots.
Once you get the hang of it, experiment with making your own skirts after the feathers are gone; colored plastic bag material shredded into a feather like consistency work very well. Recycling to eat, not too bad.
Good luck.

rikhall 10-26-2013 06:16 PM

Re: Fishing
 
This is what I use:

A Simple Handline for Trolling While Sailing

And, it works

Rik

manatee 10-26-2013 06:43 PM

Re: Fishing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Minnewaska (Post 1110762)
A buddy does many deliveries to Bermuda and the Caribbean. He has what resembles a hose reel with zillion pound test on it. It clamps to the pushpit. He pays it out and just cruises along. When a fish bites (and one always does eventually on multi-day passages), they just drag it until it gives up and they reel it in. I've seen pics of tuna and other species. It's not a Sunday morning fishing trip to get your mind off things, it's more a commercial approach to finding food.

We call them yoyos here in Florida. Great for shore fishing, too,-easy to manage, and casts a l-o-o-o-n-n-g way out.

Plastic Yoyos


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