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Irwin32 03-26-2005 02:20 PM

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A post in the boat buying forum got me thinking about something I have pondered before. I have considered a pilot house boat for my next boat because my wife gets sick when down below and underway. Needless to say she is not fond of long passages where getting out of the sun or the rain is not an option for her. What I wonder is if the windows in a pilot house are enough to give a person like her the sensory input she need to not feel the effects of being in the cabin.

TrueBlue 03-26-2005 05:47 PM

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Irwin32
Late last season (November), my wife and I closed on a Nauticat 33 Pilothouse Motorsailor. This decision was made after a careful review of most options available within our price range and feel we made the right choice.

Neither of us ever get motion sickness, so our requirements differed somewhat from yours. However, my wife and I very much enjoy the 360 degree visibility from the pilothouse, especially with the generous comfortable settees, teak tables and large chart table. An additional dinette for 6 is below in the salon (convertable to a full sleeper) as well as full headroom in fore and aft staterooms, each with ensuite heads. If you don''t like teak, don''t consider a Nauticat . . . it''s everywhere, but very well crafted.

The pilothouse''s huge overhead sliding hatch, large port/starboard sliding doors and great expanses of glass windows on all sides, create the sensory effect of being above deck (which we are), but provide a full range of variable shelter from all elements.

With a dual station on the aft (poop) deck, the helmsman can singlehand the sails, solo power or motorsail . . . if the crew decides to enjoy the comforts the pilothouse and cabins below provide. Although I have little sailing experience on this new-to-me boat, during a long tack in foul weather, I anticipate being able to check sail trim through the large hatch, while comfortably piloting the boat from the wheelhouse.

Perhaps you should contact a broker for a test sail and find out for sure, but my sense is your wife would be more comfortable.

Best, Steve

Irwin32 03-27-2005 09:02 AM

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Just curious - where was this boat located when you made the purchase?

TrueBlue 03-27-2005 10:03 AM

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We bought one with my wifes'' preferred layout in Barrington, RI. She entered the market within hours after returning from the last of three others we had inspected in Virginia, Salem & Norwalk, Ct., respectively. The broker said we were the first to view her, but I knew she was the one. Most certainly, we''d lose the opportunity to own her if we waited until Spring.

Steve

camaraderie 03-28-2005 11:38 AM

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Irwin32...
Nothing against pilot houses...but have you considered a standard aft or center cockpit boat with a full canvas enclosure? We''ve used one for years on our CC boats and find it keeps you warm, snug and dry and it is also adjustable to the weather since individual panels can be opened for fresh air. When the cockpit is fitted out with cushions, it is a great place to relax even when at the dock in any kind of weather.The downside is that the canvas and plastic eventually wear out unlike a hard pilot house. Just a thought...

Irwin32 03-30-2005 12:02 PM

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That is an interesting idea. I really like being outside most of the time so I would not go for an enclosed cockpit. My present boat doesn''t even have a dodger, though I''ve kicked the idea around, but I don''t like looling through the plastic windows.

dman 04-08-2005 05:00 AM

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trueBlue I am curious to see how you enjoy your boat.I too am switching to a pilothouse mainly because of the cold weather.Would like you to post again when you take her out and get your feedback.

TrueBlue 04-08-2005 09:39 AM

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dman,
Since the weather is finally co-operating here in RI, I plan on bottom painting next weekend & hopefully launching the week following. We have mooring reservations for July 4th week in Edgartown Harbor, Martha''s Vineyard . . . that cruise should be a good test. We will be doing several shorter trips every weekend prior.

I''ll gladly provide an update on our experiences, after we have some serious sailing hours logged.

Steve

weg 05-04-2005 06:15 PM

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Looking for rigging diagram & lenghts boom, standing rigging & deck lay out for Nauticat 33. Boom is hitting starboard mizzim foreward stay & it measure 1 inch forward of port...

peace
weg

TrueBlue 05-05-2005 02:19 AM

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weg,
If I understand your problem correctly, the mainsail boom of your Nauticat 33, hits the forward starboard mizzen stay, but clears the forward portside mizzen stay by 1".

It is possible that your mainmast may need some fine tuning. Perhaps the forward port stay is over tightened, resulting in an excessive mast lean towards the forward port quarter. This would cause the boom to swing in an arc not parallel with the deck . . . boom end higher to starboard aft quarter than port. Hence, the boom end hits the forward starboard mizzen stay, but clears the port stay.

Another scenario, is that the forward starboard mizzen stay is positioned incorrectly on the pilothouse roof. I know the stays of both mizzen & main masts of my Nauticat 33 are equally positioned, with no boom swing interference. Siltala Yachts produces the best built motorsailers in the world in compliance with the LLoyd''s Register of Shipping, so it is highly unlikely the NC33 would pass their strict standards in that condition.

If it would help, I could email copies of my sail & deck plans and/or digital photos for comparison with your boat.

Best, Steve


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