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However, I'm guessing not many members of the $500/Month Club are likely to have freezers aboard :-)
That's true however on the meat line do a forum search for canning I did several informative posts a couple years ago on the subject.

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Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

Here is an interesting video of the commercial fish market in Tokyo. Notice them cutting the FROZEN tuna with a bandsaw. They are flash frozen on the ships right after they are caught.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSA_kvamwJE

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Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

If fish are frozen very fast and to very cold temperatures, it minimizes the cellular damage but frozen is never as good as fresh. On a sailboat, the freezing process will be neither fast nor very cold. Many of the tuna and swordfish caught on smaller boats spend hours on ice before being frozen. The big longliners and harpoon boats have flash freezing but not the smaller boats. Better to catch just enough to refrigerate a quantity that can be consumed in a couple of days. Fishing while on the hook can be a good way to catch pan fish such as flounders, porgy, etc. Small fish are really some of the best eating and it's a fun thing to do.
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Have to agree with Kostis that the desire for inland travel would make $500pm very hard to achieve. I seriously doubt that the $500pm cruiser will have that option other than short backpacking trips and even then not too many of them.
Yes, it's likely one of the many choices one would have to make. That said, going ashore and seeing things doesn't necessarily mean spending big bucks. It depends on what you want to do, and how you want to do it.

If you want/need to take expensive docking, rent a car, stay in fancy hotels, eat at expensive restaurants, and go to costly tourist spots, then yes, it will be expensive. If you moor nearby, find a safe place to leave your dingy, walk, bike (if you have a bike) or hitchhike, take your own food, and avoid expensive sites, then it can be fairly cheap. It all depends on your choices.

One thing I've learned is that there is wonder and beauty nearly everywhere one goes. I can't think of anyplace that I need to see. There are lots of places I'd like to visit, but if the cost is too high, then no problem. There's no end of things to see or visit.
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Here is an interesting video of the commercial fish market in Tokyo. Notice them cutting the FROZEN tuna with a bandsaw. They are flash frozen on the ships right after they are caught.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSA_kvamwJE

yup again depends on the tuna...or other fish types etc...

sushi grade for top notch restaurants is something completely different

kind of like talking about picnic virginia ham in a black hoofes serrano ham thread from spain

youd be surprised how much stuff you eat normally are flash frozen and then thawed for consumption in the markets...

most all meats in most countries are this way too...
just sayin


didnt want this thread to get derailled but basically if you have a freezer on your boat(500 a month budget or not)

freezing fish and meats is common


I knew a boat an american tri don here who had a big freezer on board and they lived somewhere in the states where they could hunt deer a lot...so they practically stuffed the freezer with dear and elk or whatnot and it lasted them years!

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Anyway, what about traveling in the country expenses. For example if you sail to England won't one want to visit cities and landmarks in the interior of the country? Those are the big expenses -apart from the boat expenses of course-. Am i wrong?
I would say you simply can't do this sort of thing on a very modest budget. It's just one of many things you can't do.

I haven't looked at England specifically, but I suspect it may be a no-go place in general. As a rule, I think most so-called "first world" countries would be off limits to a truly frugal cruiser. Things just cost too much.

BTW, while frugal cruising removes some choices regarding where and how you can cruise, but I think it also opens up other options not available to those with plenty of money.

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yea,like what?
I'm curious also, what things are available only to me because of my poverty and or frugality that those with means are excluded?
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Mike, I would not consider myself to be rich, but did manage to afford first world places like Brisbane. At the same time we did like to go to places a little bit off the beaten track where you could not spend much even if you wanted to. I think it is all about attitude.

Also i don't think it is an all or nothing kind of thing. When we were in the Galapagos we took a four day tour with a company that focusses on the backpacker/sailor market (two notoriously impecunious and/or frugal groups. The cost was less than half of that of the 'budge' level cruise ships there and about 1/6th the cost of the top end ones. In some countries we travelled on local buses in others we rented a vehicle, just did what made sense - a car rental in NZ was cheaper than the buses, but normally a lot more expensive. In South Africa we rented because of flexibility, the ability to get to places a lot faster, and for security.

Back home on Lake Ontario after something over 36,000 nm circumnavigator. Not surprisingly there is a lot of stuff I want to get done on Ainia both cosmetically and functionally. Getting an early start so it will be ready to go for next summer (Lake Superior?).
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yea,like what?
I'm curious also, what things are available only to me because of my poverty and or frugality that those with means are excluded?
the simple things in life bud....

people get caught up in having material wealth when the best times I have EVER had when going around and cruising have actually been with people in different countries from different places or with animals

1. touching wild seals in galapagos in complete peace, they felt no fear of humas nor did I of them

2. spending a whole week with a sri lankan guide on a very personal tour of sri lanka...learned how he got married, and how....what traditions they abide by etc...

just these 2 examples show you how MONEY has NOTHING to do with experiences and or the pleasures in life

ps. I see killarney did some of the same things...when possible we completely avoided guided tours, we called them MOO MOO gudies where basically you are herded like cattle from place to places


in galapagos we actually toured 3 of the other islands not commonly available to foreigners...

on isabella I beleive the big island my friend knew the HAM radio controller up high at the top of the mountain and we had lunch and slept when of the most glorious siestas I have ever had...the guy did the spanish cruiser nets for weather from up there and we used him all the way to the south pacific

stuff like that out if the way stuff you only get by personal experiences and befriending people along the way...

having $$$ would add no personal experiences at all to said trips...above
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