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Where can you put 1400 watts of panels on a 48' ketch without serious shading?

They are best in parallel as series will kill output if a panel gets shaded.

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Where can you put 1400 watts of panels on a 48' ketch without serious shading?

They are best in parallel as series will kill output if a panel gets shaded.
Its a schooner, 1000 on the boomkin, 360 watts on each side rail by cockpit


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Because I am going for 1000 watts on my primary 24v house bank, and 400 on my 12V bank. IF I spent $4 a watt, then I might as well just spend that money on diesel for my generator. 1200 gallons of diesel will run my 3500 watt generator for 7000 hours, the same as the full array running 4 hours of daily max output for 7 years. The math does not work out on expensive panels.

I guess my big personal drawback is I want a big freezer. This is going to eat power, perhaps 80AH a day. I also plan to skip a windvane for a second auto pilot. so that will eat power too. If I was only doing a 100 watt panel, I would get a cheap controller, non-mppt, and a good panel with 18%+ effc. Even then Only for reliability, and that is not assured.
youre a 48 footer right?

still 1400watts is massive....and will eat space

I will be in the windvane as primary and autopilot as backup and protected water camp crowd

and especially since you are dealing with so many electrical loads...windvanes are your friends

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That looks like the one I added last year to the two 60w units I had already. They all work just fine, no problems. All w/ plain cheap regulators that came with them. There's always someone to sell you something more expensive with the term "marine" on it or some other such nonsense. All I can say is that mine have been working for 4-5 years now and easily keep up the batteries which support lighting, SSB, VHF, refrig, computers, and things that need to be charged.
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hey since this is my favourite thread look at this little exceprpt on this months letters from latitude38

I could post this on other threads like the sailing with kids threads, the rebel heart thread and the circumnavigation threads but man...just feels like a kick in the nads to all the naysayers out there

PREPARING OUR CHILDREN TO BE ADAPTERS

Latitude asked readers for opinions on whether parents, such as Eric and Charlotte Kaufman of the Hans Christian 36 Rebel Heart, should go bluewater cruising with children as young as the couple's one- and three-year-old daughters. Many years ago my wife Karen and I circumnavigated on an engineless Columbia 24, and in the process our son Falcon was born in Malta. Mind you, this was after his pregnant mother and I fought the strong headwinds of the Red Sea.

We left Malta after just 10 days, as it was getting cold. We cruised the Med, the Atlantic and the Caribbean, and then transited the Canal when Falcon was 14 months old. We continued on to Hawaii, where we sold the boat, bought a bigger boat, and did another circumnavigation with our still-young son.

Did we do something bad? Were we irresponsible? I don't think so. We and hundreds like us sail(ed) around the world's oceans without calling out for any help. Cruisers do it while home-schooling their children, and while teaching their children personal responsibility — a lesson seldom learned by their shore-born brethren. Growing up cruising gives kids a chance to grow exponentially more than in the structured environments on land.

The truth is that parents who raise kids on boats are not the irresponsible ones; the irresponsible parents are those who raise their kids on land. You farm your children off to inadequate schools, you let them waste their childhood playing video games, and you teach them that good enough is a job well done. Those who sail with their children think differently. We're preparing our children for a new and different world. To be survivors, yes, but more importantly, to be adapters.

If anyone is interested in what became of Falcon, they can buy The Education of Falcon on Amazon. It might open their eyes.

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Readers — We'll have more on the Riley family in the June issue. They have been cruising nonstop for decades on about $500 a month. "I don't know how most cruisers spend so much money," says Mike.
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hey since this is my favourite thread look at this little exceprpt on this months letters from latitude38

I could post this on other threads like the sailing with kids threads, the rebel heart thread and the circumnavigation threads but man...just feels like a kick in the nads to all the naysayers out there

PREPARING OUR CHILDREN TO BE ADAPTERS

Latitude asked readers for opinions on whether parents, such as Eric and Charlotte Kaufman of the Hans Christian 36 Rebel Heart, should go bluewater cruising with children as young as the couple's one- and three-year-old daughters. Many years ago my wife Karen and I circumnavigated on an engineless Columbia 24, and in the process our son Falcon was born in Malta. Mind you, this was after his pregnant mother and I fought the strong headwinds of the Red Sea.

We left Malta after just 10 days, as it was getting cold. We cruised the Med, the Atlantic and the Caribbean, and then transited the Canal when Falcon was 14 months old. We continued on to Hawaii, where we sold the boat, bought a bigger boat, and did another circumnavigation with our still-young son.

Did we do something bad? Were we irresponsible? I don't think so. We and hundreds like us sail(ed) around the world's oceans without calling out for any help. Cruisers do it while home-schooling their children, and while teaching their children personal responsibility a lesson seldom learned by their shore-born brethren. Growing up cruising gives kids a chance to grow exponentially more than in the structured environments on land.

The truth is that parents who raise kids on boats are not the irresponsible ones; the irresponsible parents are those who raise their kids on land. You farm your children off to inadequate schools, you let them waste their childhood playing video games, and you teach them that good enough is a job well done. Those who sail with their children think differently. We're preparing our children for a new and different world. To be survivors, yes, but more importantly, to be adapters.

If anyone is interested in what became of Falcon, they can buy The Education of Falcon on Amazon. It might open their eyes.

Mike Riley
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Coronado / Whangarei

Readers We'll have more on the Riley family in the June issue. They have been cruising nonstop for decades on about $500 a month. "I don't know how most cruisers spend so much money," says Mike.
see this last sentence?

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Readers We'll have more on the Riley family in the June issue. They have been cruising nonstop for decades on about $500 a month. "I don't know how most cruisers spend so much money," says Mike.
Beautiful. Love to hear more from Mike.
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Cruisers do it while home-schooling their children, and while teaching their children personal responsibility a lesson seldom learned by their shore-born brethren. Growing up cruising gives kids a chance to grow exponentially more than in the structured environments on land.
How dare you teach children such filth. They need to sing songs praising Obama, and talk about sex positions before age 8 or who knows what may happen! Personal responsibility? Thats anti government! A child should always know they are entitled to anything they want, as a free gift from [s]mother russia[/s] USA. BAH! These children will never be [s]brainwashed in the American way[/s] taught properly.


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How dare you teach children such filth.

Yah, I'm with ya brother!

They need to sing songs praising Obama,

Uh, what now?

and talk about sex positions before age 8

How the heck did we get here??

or who knows what may happen! Personal responsibility? Thats anti government! A child should always know they are entitled to anything they want, as a free gift from [s]mother russia[/s] USA. BAH! These children will never be [s]brainwashed in the American way[/s] taught properly.

You lost me
UnionPacific, you had me at first, but then you headed off into some paranoid right wing survivor land. Believe it or not, no one is going to force you to become a socialist or accept that collective action is a good thing. No one is coming for your soul, your kid's minds, or your guns.

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