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Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

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Here there are guest marinas that have free WiFi usually owned and operated by city or county gov I know some that charge ten bucks a day plus three for power and a couple that charge as little as $.50 per ft per day and that includes free showers state marine parks that charge the same but charge for the showers so ocasionaly in a marina yes but you are correct not if you do it everyday.
Wow .... I can only really speak of Sydney and Coastal NSW but such a critter simply does not exist down here. Years back when I was up north it seemed that most of the sailing/yacht clubs in smaller settlements offered free facilities to visiting boat's crews but I dare say those days are either long gone or don't include such niceties as free WiFi. Free btw only if you anchored out, not free berths or moorings.
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Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

I use libraries for internet access, which are free, as well as other free sites. I traded some work for my last computer ,which cost the buyer $100. This one cost me $140. Internet is not all that expensive here.
I also get a lot of abuse for suggesting simpler, more affordable ways of doing things. In the process they also abuse those who could benefit from such information, by trying to discourage people from making it available to low income cruisers. Those who stand to benefit could speak up a bit more .
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Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

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Wow .... I can only really speak of Sydney and Coastal NSW but such a critter simply does not exist down here. Years back when I was up north it seemed that most of the sailing/yacht clubs in smaller settlements offered free facilities to visiting boat's crews but I dare say those days are either long gone or don't include such niceties as free WiFi. Free btw only if you anchored out, not free berths or moorings.
I can't speak of the sailing down under at all the last time I was there was the early fall of 1990 and didn't have the opportunity to do any sailing.
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Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

Just curious... A number of people of said they cruise on $500 per month (or $6,000 per year) because that is all the money they have. The US Federal poverty level for a single individual is an income less than $11,400 per year (2013) That would suggest such cruisers (if in the US) are eligible for Federal and State aid.

I can understand that disclosure of this kind would be a touchy subject. Also that just because one can does not mean one does take advantage of any particular program. But I am curious on two fronts:
1) Do cruisers take advantage of Federal (and State) assistance programs?
2) Does living on a boat create any particular challenge when taking advantage of such a program? I know that I have run afoul of various bureaucracies since my domicile and legal address is in Wisconsin, my mailing address is in New Jersey, and my residence address is wherever I happen to be.
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Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

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good lord, leaving barnaget in December /January !
I'm at a loss for words.
do you just plan to run nonstop or. do you plan to stop usually?
and why? are you just into it or? ??
Being in the yacht delivery business is not very conducive to getting my own boat south in a more timely fashion in the fall, I'm usually pretty busy running other people's boats well into December... My trips south can be pretty compressed affairs, as I generally try to be back home again by mid-April again, as well...

I usually try to run straight thru to Norfolk, inside to Beaufort/Morehead, then outside as much as possible from there... I used to be able to save a lot of time by staying outside to Oregon Inlet when the weather permitted, but unfortunately the present status of Oregon Inlet has made that route too risky for my taste, I don't even go that way with powerboats anymore.. That's a shame, because that route in a sailboat, in favorable conditions, can save a LOT of time, and engine hours...
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Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

awesome, after a couple ditch runs that route sounds appealing.
what about ocracoke inlet? ever do that one?
I've been in silver lake and inside to manteo.never been through the inlet, but looks enticing. black beard liked it.
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Here there are guest marinas that have free WiFi usually owned and operated by city or county gov I know some that charge ten bucks a day plus three for power and a couple that charge as little as $.50 per ft per day and that includes free showers state marine parks that charge the same but charge for the showers so ocasionaly in a marina yes but you are correct not if you do it everyday.
Guess it's no surprise that the majority of the $500/Month Club here are from the PNW...:-) Pretty tough to find marina/dockage rates even remotely comparable to those anywhere on the East Coast, Newfoundland is the only place that comes to mind where I might have paid as little as $10/day for dockage (in a community where I was actually charged, that is)



Injecting a discussion of transient marina fees in a discussion of "Voyaging" on $500/month is really a bit silly, few expenditures are likely to blow such a budget more quickly than taking moorings, or paying for transient dockage...
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Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

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Injecting a discussion of transient marina fees in a discussion of "Voyaging" on $500/month is really a bit silly

Say what ??????????????????????????? Transient fees are 100% part of "voyaging"!
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awesome, after a couple ditch runs that route sounds appealing.
what about ocracoke inlet? ever do that one?
I've been in silver lake and inside to manteo.never been through the inlet, but looks enticing. black beard liked it.
I've gone out Hatteras Inlet a few times years ago, but have only been thru Ocracoke once, probably 20 years ago, with a 49' Grand Banks trawler... At that time, I vowed "never again", it was pretty sketchy... :-)

But Ocracoke has improved considerably, since then, or so I've heard, so I wouldn't rule it out... If I were sailing my own boat to the Virgin Islands, for example, I'd consider jumping off from Ocracoke or Hatteras (after having scoped out either inlet again beforehand, of course), such a point of departure would get you across the Stream very quickly. but, when heading down the coast, going out of Ocracoke doesn't really gain you much of an advantage. Plus, I really like both Beaufort and Morehead anyway, if I have to sit anywhere for a bit to wait for weather, or do any provisioning, etc, there are few better places to be...

The primary concern I'd have about Ocracoke nowadays, is that since the closure of the CG station there years ago, the marking of the channel is not likely to be updated as frequently as it once was... You'd be more heavily dependent upon local knowledge now, it would seem very unwise to consider using Ocracoke without checking with the charter boat captains at the Anchorage first...

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Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

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Guess it's no surprise that the majority of the $500/Month Club here are from the PNW...:-) Pretty tough to find marina/dockage rates even remotely comparable to those anywhere on the East Coast, Newfoundland is the only place that comes to mind where I might have paid as little as $10/day for dockage (in a community where I was actually charged, that is).
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Injecting a discussion of transient marina fees in a discussion of "Voyaging" on $500/month is really a bit silly, few expenditures are likely to blow such a budget more quickly than taking moorings, or paying for transient dockage...
Yes, obviously the only way to keep the expenditures low is to anchor out and avoid marina costs like the plague. But I'm glad to hear NFLD is a cheaper place to play. We expect to be sailing The Rock by 2015/16.
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