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While we ingest pharmaceutical poisons and they remain in our waste, we are far from the only species that eats stuff other species would find poisonous. That's totally biased.







The gut flora necessary for a carnivore's digestion is what causes the odor. It's actually worse in some other carnivorous species.







There should be zero discharge in confined harbors for obvious reasons. There is zero scientific evidence of the need to be 3 miles offshore.

While i agree with many of your posts, i disagree with this.

Many of the virus' we release in our waste are harmful to marine life - esp. coral. I read some publications on this and i apologize if I do not have the links.

I personally have witnessed a large decline in reefs. I have seen bleaching where before there was none. The ocean seems to be in decline to me. I have no scientific evidence for this my friend, just my years here and the comments from many of my cruising friends.

I am afraid what is out there is but a shadow of what was before, and our children may see a shadow of that.

That is one huge reason why i do what i do with my kiddos when most think we are crazy... And at great cost to us.

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Caberg, I'm not sure the WagBags are for me, but I'm curious wher eyou get them. All I see is a link to the DOD Mall and the GSA Advantage site. I'm not in the government, so I can't order from either of those.
Dunno 'bout wag bags but U can find Double Duty bags at your local Walmart camping section. They do the same thing. Odorless and just pitch them in the garbage.
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Re: How big a holding tank vs. camping

I have a rather big holding thank on my boat (40 gals) it lasts us about 9 days , 2 people .
I have only 1 rule on my boat no #2.
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I have a rather big holding thank on my boat (40 gals) it lasts us about 9 days , 2 people .
I have only 1 rule on my boat no #2.
9 days with no number twos that proves it you are full of it
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I have a rather big holding thank on my boat (40 gals) it lasts us about 9 days , 2 people .
I have only 1 rule on my boat no #2.
9 days, 2 people, 40 gallons ... you two must drink A LOT of beer

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If you have a head that flushes, you ain't camping...
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Re: How big a holding tank vs. camping

For those wondering about the Rainer part, that is ON the glaiciers etc. Not too many other animals besides us humans. Well, a few birds, not many........

along with, one can see the trailer if one looks hard enough from teh paper/poo etc along the side of the main trailer if you can call it that, going up the main route on the glaciers one goes up.

At muir, they have a really expensive outhouse, that literally has the ability to dehydrate the poo etc. Now it is one helicopter trip to remover the wast a year vs one a month.

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my bucket flushes just fine. Kinda funny were worried about putting a little poo in the water when we paint all holly hell of toxic **** on our bottoms no pun intended
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Re: How big a holding tank vs. camping

ive seen fish gobble up poo(not saying whos) like it where shrimp scampi!
dont see them complaining

in fact they looked quite satisfied....je

and yeah why is poo bad when millions of boat all over the world have bottom paint

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Re: How big a holding tank vs. camping

I believe a lot of the boats that have a sewer smell down below are fitted with expandable bladders and not solid boxes for holding tanks. My boat did when I bought her and we had that mild but still nasty odour until I ripped he bladders out. The problem with bladders is that they're generally not vented and thus the generate anaerobic bacteria which smells waaaaay worse that aerobic bacteria.

I also support the belief that a properly installed holding tank will not smell in the boat - we have many boaters we know with holding facilities and their boats always smell fresh and clean.

We have two heads, one pumps directly to the sea and is used for urine only when close to land or anchored and for anything else only when we're at sea. The second head will (haven't got to it yet) get a solid 60 litre Vetus tank installed with solid PVC tube, not the flexible "filter" pipe (I call it filter pipe because it will eventually permeate the smell of the system into the boat. It may take shorter or longer but it will happen.

There are large areas in New Zealand where it is illegal to anchor, even for an hour, without holding facilities. We have to at present buck that rule but do so very responsibly and hope we don't get nabbed.


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