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Re: One Last "All is Lost " thread

I am looking forwards to seeing this movie. Netflix just released it today, 2/11/14 I have been avoiding these threads for some time now.
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Re: One Last "All is Lost " thread

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I suppose we should all stick to our opinion, as one has never been changed in the history of the internet, and discontinuing trying to tell those with the opposing view why they feel the way they do.
That's your opinion! (smiley added to ensure clarity)
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Re: One Last "All is Lost " thread

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...I have been avoiding these threads for some time now.
Same here.

Saw it last night tho. Absolute rubbish.

Steven Callahan has gotta be LHAO...
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Re: One Last "All is Lost " thread

Only the second movie I have ever walked out of. Sure im going to get off my boat and hop on a container in the middle of the ocean
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Re: One Last "All is Lost " thread

Not worth wasting time to see even if it is free
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Re: One Last "All is Lost " thread

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I suppose we should all stick to our opinion, as one has never been changed in the history of the internet, and discontinuing trying to tell those with the opposing view why they feel the way they do.
Minni, I'm just having a little fun. taking the opposing view. Though much of what i posted is what the critics have said.

We expected a sailing movie or the more conventional man against adversity. I do respect Redford for doing the movie.

That said, I realized that because of the movie's technical deficiencies the movie would be a complete miss to the million or so sailors on the planet. But those glaring miscues won't matter to the intended audience, the 7 billion or so non sailors among us.

Usually any movie billed with "Critical Acclaim - means wait for the DVD. And usually a very short wait that will be.

Wanna see a good movie that is entertaining? American Hustle.

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Re: One Last "All is Lost " thread

Not here to defend The Electric Horseman, but I believe The Artist won Best Picture in 2012, no? Here are a few little problems with that movie, per IMDB:
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When a poster is shown of new talents of the sound era in 1929, actress Lucille Ricksen is among those listed. Ricksen was in fact a silent screen actress who died in 1925.
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The phonograph used is a Guild "Graphanola" - a hi-fi made to look like an outside horn machine. These were built in the mid 1950's when Hi-fi was the newest sound technology, almost 30 years after when this movie is set. A non-electric inside horn machine like a Victrola would have been more than likely used in the late 1920's, as outside horn machines were outdated by then.
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In all of the films screened, the THE END title dissolves onto the screen, either over the action or as a separate card. This practice did not begin until the early 1940s; prior to that, all films simply faded to black, then faded in on the end title (the only exceptions being gags, such as a character walking onscreen holding a sign reading THE END).
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Peppy's chauffeur driven car appears to be a 1937 or 1938 Cadillac Convertible Sedan with its 'Goddess of Speed' hood ornament, which did not exist at the time the movie takes place.
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In the early part of the film an issue of Variety is shown, with the front page covered with photos. Photos were allowed in Variety only in advertising copy. After 1920, it was an important style point of Variety that the publication never used photos on the front cover. They re-introduced photos as late as 1988, when the Silverman family sold Variety to Cahners.
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Women's fashions changed a great deal from 1927 to 1932; however, Peppy's wardrobe appears to remain in 1927. By 1932, hems were mid-calf and waistlines were at the natural waist.
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When Valintin destroys his film prints he opens can after can of film and takes out reels of film. The reels have rolled edges and are the type manufactured by Goldberg Bros. or Tayloreel Co. in the late 1940's at the earliest. In the thirties film reels did not have rolled edges and a projectionist could burn or cut his hand if he tried to stop a rapidly spinning reel. Most reels were of a spoked design having 4, 5 or 6 "arms" or spokes. A few reels were manufactured with circular holes but they usually had 6, not 5 holes. Further, the film cans he empties are "raw stock" cans, designed to hold film "off reel". The additional thickness of the metal reel would not allow the lid of the can to close making that type of can useless for mounted prints. Films on reels would always be kept in fireproof rectangular metal shipping cases. However, the public recognizes film "cans" better than shipping cases, which is probably why they used them in this scene.
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The pistol George takes out of the box is a Smith and Wesson model 36 "Chief's Special." The model 36 was not produced until 1950.
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The number of George's house is painted on the curb in front. Los Angeles did not begin this practice until decades later.
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In the film within a film at the beginning, the characters escape in an airplane called a Ryan ST. This plane was not built until 1934, well after the film is set.
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In the filming for the start of the sound era, a noisy "unblimped" motion picture camera is shown doing the shooting. Early sound movies would have used either an enclosing thick metal "blimp" to mute the camera noise, or a noise-deadening booth containing both camera and cameraman.
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While autographing photos for George, Clifton uses what appears to be a Parker Streamlined Vacumatic fountain pen which did not exist until 1937. Other pens used in the movie appear to be European pens from the 1940s.
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George's chauffeur driven car is a Lincoln supposedly from 1929. It is actually a later model, most likely a 1932.
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"Pennies from Heaven" by Arthur Johnston and Johnny Burke was first introduced in the movie of the same name in 1936.
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(at around 1 min) The 1950s-era record changer is shown "playing" a 1930s-era 78rpm disc, but rotating at only 45rpm - a speed developed for use with the 7-inch vinyl disc format which would not be introduced until 1949.
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When George meets Peppy for the first time he is surrounded by reporters and photographers. One reporter has the typical "PRESS" card stuck in his hat brim, but the typeface is Helvetica, not introduced until 1958.
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The mike disappears during Peppy's interview and then suddenly reappears.
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When Peppy bumps into George Valentin, she had dropped her small black bag and picked it up. The bag disappears from her hands in the next scene and then appears again.
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In the scene when George removes a white sheet from the things that Peppy bought at auction, in one moment the sheet is in his right hand and in the next frame it's in his left hand.
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When George wakes up from his nightmare, he is clearly propped up on pillows, almost sitting upright, with at least two pillows stacked vertically behind his head and shoulders. However, three seconds later, when he gets out of bed, the pillows are stacked horizontally, with one in front of the other and none of them are vertical.
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Early on when Peppy dances through her quickie audition she places her purse on the ground immediately to her right. In the next cut, with the surrounding ground space in full view, the purse is nowhere to be seen. Then, dance done, the purse reappears.
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In the restaurant scene where Peppy is giving an interview, there is a shot from behind where the person wearing the headset has just one ear covered by the headset. In the next shot from the front both his ears are covered.
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A fire due to burning of film would have produced a lot of toxic gas. George should have been dead from smoke inhalation long before the dog could have gotten the policeman to come to his rescue.
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Back page of Variety is full-page ad for Coca-Cola; ads in this trade paper were always for show biz-related concerns (studios, stars, agencies, upcoming productions) but never for traditional consumer products like soft drinks, cigarettes, cars, etc.
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The pair of white porcelain 'art deco' figurines seen time and again behind Doris and used as a metaphor for George's and Doris' relationship aren't actually art deco or French, but made in Devon in the late 1970's by master ceramist Rod Hill.
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During the montage of films starring Peppy Miller, the spelling of her name on the movie posters changes from Pepi to Peppy. This may be deliberate - it is not uncommon for those with small parts to have their names misspelled.
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It is correct that the SMPTE leader shown did not come into use until television, but the writer says it should be Academy leader (Start..11..10..etc). This was not put into use until after 1930. The earliest sound films had a "Start" frame, but then just 12 feet of black film until the picture began.
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In a hospital scene (1930 or 1931), Calvin Coolidge is pictured in a photo-portrait on a wall. Coolidge left the presidency in 1929. But of course that fact does not imply that his photo-portrait would never be seen on walls.
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When George sees the large marque for Peppy Miller's movie Beauty Spot, the beauty spot on her image is on the wrong side of her face.
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In the opening sequence, when George watches the film in the theater, the on-screen car appears to be left-hand drive. Since he is standing behind the screen, the image should be reversed.
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During the electrocution scene in the movie-within-a-movie ("A Russian Affair"), close-ups of the control panel show an odd mixture of Russian and English labels. For example, the label for the push-buttons reads "Washwater Flow."
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In the movie-within-the-movie shown at the beginning of the film, Valentin's character is being tortured by the application of electrical shocks. While the "Russian" labels on the gauge and rheostat do refer to voltage and current (in what appears to be grammatically incorrect Russian), the the panel to the left of the gauge refers (in English) to "Washwater Pressure" and the gauge itself is marked (in English) as showing pressure in pounds per square inch.
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Re: One Last "All is Lost " thread

Wow, Argo won Best Picture in 2013. Didn't realize it had so many errors:
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Again, I liked All is Lost. May never see it again, but I watched it.
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Re: One Last "All is Lost " thread

Clarifying my earlier angst, and without rehashing the many goofs in the movie, I think what triggers my "this movie annoys me" alarms is that it's one more time the seafaring community is made to look idiotic by a movie showing a main character doing a ton of things no sailor ever would, and not doing a ton of things every sailor would have.

Like how "The Perfect Storm" movie made Ray Leonard (captain of the Satori) look like some alcoholic, Cpt Bligh version of a yachtie moron.

I just wish some real actual sailors had been consulted on the film. You could have created a similarly exciting nailbiter, but actually made the sailor in question technically competent. The ocean is a thrilling and terrifying place when experienced sailors are doing things right. You don't need one bonehead thing after another to make an exciting movie about the open ocean and a singlehander. He could have been razor sharp and actually on his game and the ocean can still provide tons of popcorn, theater excitement.

I don't know. I just don't like sailors looking like goofs. YMMV.
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Re: One Last "All is Lost " thread

I'm sure there are many errors in most, if not all movies (with the obvious exceptions of Monty Python & The Holy Grail and Jaws): anachronisms; continuity errors (although I have read that some directors do this deliberately to keep the audience on their toes - Hitchcock was apparently one proponent of this); crew/equipment visible; etc. My point is this: if the movie is engaging you don't sweat that stuff. If you aren't buying in to the film all of its flaws become glaring.
Think of a past lover: when things were going well - and you had, shall we say 'other' distractions - they were the most perfect creature on the face of the earth. Once they became less interesting all of their blemishes (physical and otherwise) became blatantly clear.
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