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Back to shortening the tiller. I would take some electrical tape and mark where you want to shorten it down to. Sail for a few weeks with only holding the tiller from behind that mark. If the pressure ever gets too heavy, then you know it is too short. You could keep moving it back till you find where it gets too heavy, then you know where the shortest it can be. Then figure out what works best for single handing, and go with that so long as it is before your shortest mark. That lets you figure the best length for sailing. If it makes your guests have to move, so be it. Sailing is the priority, at least in my world.
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That is my intention. if i can go short enough, and still sail comfortable and easily, maybe the ax haft suggestion might just work out well.
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i was more concerned with comfort while sailing than space when not sailing.
I figure for every hour I spend sailing, I spend 4 or more entertaining. The extra space would be nice then. The grass is always greener as they say...or maybe I need to sail more.
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I figure for every hour I spend sailing, I spend 4 or more entertaining. The extra space would be nice then. The grass is always greener as they say...or maybe I need to sail more.

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i don't think i'd buy a complete system, knowing what i know now about the way wheel systems are designed. i'd buy a wheel and build the rest. this has been a really educational experience.

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Re: why so long?

I had a Cape Dory 25D with a tiller years ago where I had the same problem. It didn't ever seem to need that much leverage, even in high winds, so I finally sawed off about 14 inches and never regretted it.

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i don't think i'd buy a complete system, knowing what i know now about the way wheel systems are designed. i'd buy a wheel and build the rest. this has been a really educational experience.
But apparently not educational enough, if you're STILL considering swapping your tiller for a wheel... :-)
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But apparently not educational enough, if you're STILL considering swapping your tiller for a wheel... :-)
on a possibly some day basis. i am going to sail, shorten the tiller, and sail some more. if i find the tiller is actually a PIA, and wish to try a wheel, then i will, at that time.

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on a possibly some day basis. i am going to sail, shorten the tiller, and sail some more. if i find the tiller is actually a PIA, and wis to try a wheel, then i will, at that time.
sounds like this might be the inverse of the


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sounds like this might be the inverse of the Peter Principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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kind of does, doesn't it?

interesting principle. never heard of it but i suspect it's true in most businesses. is that 'peter' as in 'peters out'?

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