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I am really amazed at the boat mfg.''s, Boat US, West Marine and all the rest of the companies and people making their living off boaters.
Don''t they think they should join in the fight to keep the waters open?

It doesn't surprise me at all and I really am at a loss at understanding why they don't step up

I delt with land access issues for a few years in the offroad arena; We were and still are being squeezed hard by both the development and environmental jaws, the urban spawl on one side and environmental impact and wilderness designation on the other.

We have lost access to over 15 million acres in So. Ca alone and So. Ca is the offroad capital of the world, the industry is based in So. Ca. and yet none of the big players come to the game and the financial support, although appriciated, is really insulting.

Never did understand their thinking, so after 40 yrs of offroad, I left it cold trukey, can't support an industry that won't support me or itself, and I'm though butt'n heads
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Part of the problem is the economics involved. The developers and communities have a vested financial interest in seeing new developments take over the water front areas in many cases. Many water-based businesses, like marinas, boat yards, chandleries, and boat builders contribute far less to the local tax base and economy than do the huge condominium complexes that often replace them.

Even worse, is the fact that many of these same developments are the ones that get wiped out by hurricanes or storms, and we, the taxpayers, end up paying to re-build.

Some communities have passed water-front development laws that protect the marine-based businesses from developers. Unfortunately, these laws seem to be mainly concentrated in states that have had strong histories of marine-based industry, such as Maine and their fishing industry, rather than the larger, more populous southern coastal areas.
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It doesn't surprise me at all and I really am at a loss at understanding why they don't step up

I delt with land access issues for a few years in the offroad arena; We were and still are being squeezed hard by both the development and environmental jaws, the urban spawl on one side and environmental impact and wilderness designation on the other.

We have lost access to over 15 million acres in So. Ca alone and So. Ca is the offroad capital of the world, the industry is based in So. Ca. and yet none of the big players come to the game and the financial support, although appriciated, is really insulting.

Never did understand their thinking, so after 40 yrs of offroad, I left it cold trukey, can't support an industry that won't support me or itself, and I'm though butt'n heads
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I am afraid I don't see any reason for the manufacturers to be against these developments. My guess is that land based owners who will pony up to lease slips at these places are the bulk of the large new boat buyers.
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I have contacted NMMA and told them I may well drop out of boating because of the shrinking access and growing insurance cost. We may not buy shiny new expensive boats but we spend a lot on gear & upkeep. Those suppliers are members of the NMMA too. The trade-up buyer needs a buyer for their used boat.
Doesn't take much to send them an e-mail.
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