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View Poll Results: Who agrees, City maintained mooring fields are better than no oversight?
Agree City forced and maintained 6 14.63%
Disagree Open to freely anchor at will. 13 31.71%
State should address the real problem. Abandoned boats 19 46.34%
City owned mooring field and privately run by contract 3 7.32%
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Re: Beaufort South Carolina no longer a free anchor

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ltgoshen, I'm not only from the South, I'm a Daughter of the Confederacy, my 3d Great-Grandfather fought for States' Rights.

Nevertheless, I see no difference between someone squatting in a public park and a derelict boat owner squatting on a public waterway. If you care to stick to the question, I'm still looking for an answer to 'what is the difference?'
Yeeea, like I said, go back and read the thread. This story is not about derelict boats or squatters.I live in this city and have for many years. I have a boat and pay for a slip at a near by facility. This issue and complaint about a contractor of a city dock taking a mooring field for profit from the citizens for profit.
if all you had to say is there should be no abandoned boats then I would be inclined to agree with your statement. However, that's not what you said.
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So, ltgoshen, you have no answer to the question I asked, which is:

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PEOPLE SQUATTING IN A PUBLIC PARK AND PEOPLE SQUATTING IN A PUBLIC WATERWAY?

This question does not mention anything about the standards under which the people who are squatting live, k?
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Re: Beaufort South Carolina no longer a free anchor

Maybe Multihull Girl will change her mind after she actually cruises the ICW and sees more and more anchorages disappear every year.
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Yeeea, like I said, go back and read the thread. This story is not about derelict boats or squatters.I live in this city and have for many years. I have a boat and pay for a slip at a near by facility. This issue and complaint about a contractor of a city dock taking a mooring field for profit from the citizens for profit.
if all you had to say is there should be no abandoned boats then I would be inclined to agree with your statement. However, that's not what you said.
How cool "So did my Grand Father"
Given it has no effect on your ability to use the waterway or anchor nearby I dont understand your issue. So a transient boat may or may not use a mooring - big deal. How does this effect you or local boat owners?
Within 6 months they will be full of derelict boats dumped by irresponsible owners anyway and then they will be the contractors problem. Sounds more like the city dodged a potential liability than they gave someone a business opportunity with only 16 moorings.

Even if every mooring was used every day of the year at $25 a day thats only $146k in revenue. Now be realistic about the numbers and this is very likely less than $50K a year in revenue Sorry but the city gave the operator nothing but a headache.

What is your complaint? That someone got a bad govt contract that didnt cost you anything?
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Actually I have cruised the ICW and I found anchorages in plenty. The thing that really sucks about the ICW is the rudeness of other boaters. I would never care to ICW again.

again… what is the difference, please… I would honestly like to have a real answer, and so far I'm not getting one.
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The Northeast is full of moorings, most run by marinas, that cost $50+/night. Yet we can still find places to anchor at if we want. You guys need to get over your Chicken Little and The Gov't is out to get me issues.

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if I anchor for the weekend am I "squatting "?
if I stay in the park for a weekend am I squatting?
if I sleep in my car/truck/van at the curb for the weekend am I squatting?
if I do this for a week?
what about for a month??
what if I'm parked in a public lot in a camper?
I think it is quite different being in a vessel particularly a sailing vessel.
A vessel at anchor is definitely different than a box under a bridge, or sleeping in the park or living in a car if there were no difference I'd have skipped buying the boat!
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Two factors about moorings...

1. They take up the most desireable anchoring space.

2. I trust my anchoring gear more than a city maintained mooring.
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I have good anchoring gear with an oversized Manson Supreme and 350' of chain. But I don't feel it will ever be more secure than a properly sized, installed, and inspected mooring. My boat has ridden storms at its' mooring where my boat took the whole system with a 5,000 pound mooring block for a ride, but the boat didn't go far. I don't believe my anchor would have been better.

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The key word there...is properly sized, installed and inspected!!
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