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View Poll Results: Who agrees, City maintained mooring fields are better than no oversight?
Agree City forced and maintained 6 14.63%
Disagree Open to freely anchor at will. 13 31.71%
State should address the real problem. Abandoned boats 19 46.34%
City owned mooring field and privately run by contract 3 7.32%
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The key word there...is properly sized, installed and inspected!!
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I hung on a claw and chain and a Danforth and chain each #40-45 for three days in Chesapeake basin during Sandy.
I'm pleased with my ground takle.
was I "squatting "? We were there for 5-6 days total.
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I have good anchoring gear with an oversized Manson Supreme and 350' of chain. But I don't feel it will ever be more secure than a properly sized, installed, and inspected mooring. My boat has ridden storms at its' mooring where my boat took the whole system with a 5,000 pound mooring block for a ride, but the boat didn't go far. I don't believe my anchor would have been better.
I've seen a boat on a mooring ball in Put-N-Bay, OH go drifting after the ring on the mooring ball broke in half. So it probably depends on how well they are maintained.

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The key word there...is properly sized, installed and inspected!!
Of course, but if you are going to start down this road as an excuse for a mooring owned by either a marinia or City where there are requirements for inspections and chain replacements then you now are just on a fear of The Man rant.

On the other side of the question is the size and condition of ground tackle on the unknown low cost cruiser anchored in front you during a blow.

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The best thing is to hold boaters responsible for their boats. Governments do best at summons and ticketing. They have historically failed at fixing civil problems.
Again we still need to divide this thread into 2 sections. one for derelict vessels and the other is Government mandated mooring fields threw waterway confrontation.

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the pro-mooring advocates cannot justify the mooring fields unless they first blur the topic with talk of the big bad derelict vessel and msd smoke screen.
the choice to use anchor or mooring should remain a choice.
if mooring fields are to be installed, why can't the mooring fields be put where the anchorage isn't?
why must the best or most desirable anchoring locations always be where the moorings need to be?
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could say the same they about every new public building, library, park, road etc.

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So the only difference between these types of squatting, for that's what it is, is that one is land-based and one water-based?

If you have a nice, fancy, high-dollar, well-kept camper rig and park it in a public park, you'll get run out in short order. So take your nice camper rig and spend a bit and go to a state or national park campground. It's a nominal fee, and limited duration, and it's public land. I'm assuming that, based on the lack of complaint, everyone is OK with that.

So maybe if you view the mooring fields in the same light, you get my take on it. I'm damned if I can see any difference.

It's a public waterway, moorings installed and controlled by a public entity, for a nominal fee, with limited duration. Just like a state or national park campground.

In any case, one never sees commercial boats (fishermen or the like) just randomly anchoring, as cruisers do. Would the commercial boats be asked to leave the anchorage, or do they just not want to anchor for free?
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the pro-mooring advocates cannot justify the mooring fields unless they first blur the topic with talk of the big bad derelict vessel and msd smoke screen.
the choice to use anchor or mooring should remain a choice.
if mooring fields are to be installed, why can't the mooring fields be put where the anchorage isn't?
why must the best or most desirable anchoring locations always be where the moorings need to be?
Really? Moorings are typically paid for. Why would you expect someone to pay good money to be in the location you dont want for free?
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So the only difference between these types of squatting, for that's what it is, is that one is land-based and one water-based?

If you have a nice, fancy, high-dollar, well-kept camper rig and park it in a public park, you'll get run out in short order. So take your nice camper rig and spend a bit and go to a state or national park campground. It's a nominal fee, and limited duration, and it's public land. I'm assuming that, based on the lack of complaint, everyone is OK with that.

So maybe if you view the mooring fields in the same light, you get my take on it. I'm damned if I can see any difference.

It's a public waterway, moorings installed and controlled by a public entity, for a nominal fee, with limited duration. Just like a state or national park campground.

In any case, one never sees commercial boats (fishermen or the like) just randomly anchoring, as cruisers do. Would the commercial boats be asked to leave the anchorage, or do they just not want to anchor for free?
I can see your point for long term users, but what about the transients?
Should somebody that just wants to rest as they make their way down the ICW be required to pay for every night that they stop?
If that is the case, then what about public rest stops where truckers are allowed to park their rigs while they rest.

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