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View Poll Results: Who agrees, City maintained mooring fields are better than no oversight?
Agree City forced and maintained 6 15.00%
Disagree Open to freely anchor at will. 13 32.50%
State should address the real problem. Abandoned boats 18 45.00%
City owned mooring field and privately run by contract 3 7.50%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll

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. . . well, good luck to them. Does anyone know how far you'd need to go for the next practical anchorage?
Battery Creek at Port Royal just off of Paris Island Marine Base ... about 1-1/2 miles south of Beaufort. Bottom is mixed mud, sand and shells, so you need a 'modern' anchor to stay put in a blow.
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I agree with you completely, but.....



You mean socialist revenue mongers? Capitailism and revenue mongers don't genrally go hand in hand. I don'y know of to many wall streeters that enjoy paying taxes.

For those that would like to REALLY make thier voices heard..... write a letter, e-mail or phone to below.

City Council - City of Beaufort, South Carolina
Good luck with that - please post all replies from the cityofbeaufort.org/citycouncil here, just for laughs.
The City of Beaufort is imposing a tax on sailors mooring in their city. They are calling it a "fee" because they cannot tax those without property or income in Beaufort.
Because we have no property or income in Beaufort we have no voice in the matter. Us sailors are what Beaufort or any city would embrace - a "mark - a stooge - a fool" to be taken for all they can get before you pass their borders. Call or write the city council all you want, they will not answer because your interests do not align with theirs.
Beaufort is following the quick money - the absolute definition of capitalism.
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Any news on the daily fee?
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"ALEC" doesn't only focus on gun laws and minimum wages. Florida, and now Beaufort, wants to have people with money to spend stop, and perhaps spend more in town than people who don't. It's capitalism. If you don't like it, vote against it when you get the chance. As posted above, however, it's difficult to vote against if you don't live there. It's like the hotel room taxes that are used in many cities to pay for sports stadiums. The people who need hotel rooms aren't voters in those cities. Taxation without representation... where have I heard THAT before?

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I agree with you completely, but.....



You mean socialist revenue mongers? Capitailism and revenue mongers don't genrally go hand in hand. I don'y know of to many wall streeters that enjoy paying taxes.

For those that would like to REALLY make thier voices heard..... write a letter, e-mail or phone to below.

City Council - City of Beaufort, South Carolina
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"ALEC" doesn't only focus on gun laws and minimum wages. Florida, and now Beaufort, wants to have people with money to spend stop, and perhaps spend more in town than people who don't. It's capitalism. If you don't like it, vote against it when you get the chance. As posted above, however, it's difficult to vote against if you don't live there. It's like the hotel room taxes that are used in many cities to pay for sports stadiums. The people who need hotel rooms aren't voters in those cities. Taxation without representation... where have I heard THAT before?
That's called the redistribution of wealth.

Unfortunately your right. If your local why would you care? Doesn't effect your bottom line; for now. If you own a boat your rich right? What's a few dollars here and there?

This is Capitalism at it's finest........
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Camping at walmart; what does this do for their bottom line?
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"ALEC" doesn't only focus on gun laws and minimum wages. Florida, and now Beaufort, wants to have people with money to spend stop, and perhaps spend more in town than people who don't. It's capitalism. If you don't like it, vote against it when you get the chance.
Great point, but most have no idea what/who ALEC is or what it means to our lives as citizens or sailors ----
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Us sailors are what Beaufort or any city would embrace - a "mark - a stooge - a fool" to be taken for all they can get before you pass their borders.
In many people's mind, a boat seems to be considered more of a luxury item and believed that more $$ should be spent as part of this ownership through extra fees, taxes, etc. But at the same time, someone has to pay for some of the services that boaters take advantage of. Unless you live somewhere long enough to be involved with the local politics, cruisers are not going to have any say in the matter. So long as the facilities that are available are taken care of, a modest fee may not be too bad.
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Any news on the daily fee?
Boat owner balks at notice to move vessel from Beaufort River bluff | Local News | The Island Packet
Looks like the harbor master Mr. Griffin "said he will work with any owners who want to pay to use the city's moorings, once they are installed. Charges have not been determined, but he is finding mooring in other locations averages $25 a day and $200 to $250 a month..
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In many people's mind, a boat seems to be considered more of a luxury item and believed that more $$ should be spent as part of this ownership through extra fees, taxes, etc. But at the same time, someone has to pay for some of the services that boaters take advantage of. Unless you live somewhere long enough to be involved with the local politics, cruisers are not going to have any say in the matter. So long as the facilities that are available are taken care of, a modest fee may not be too bad.
So true.

I had a conversation yesterday with a co-worker about the similarities and differences between RVing and cruising. They seem to get away with more, at times. A $80k Rv Rig (Truck & Trailer) is viewed as "Average american" and can slip place to place without have to re-register everytime they stop in a new state. Yet we stop in Florida for 3 months(?) and they want us to register and pay taxes.
Public perception of boaters i guess. I know i get called rich at work. Yet my boss has a week old $60k RV and he is a "redneck hillbilly" they say. Hmmm...

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So long as the facilities that are available are taken care of, a modest fee may not be too bad.
$25 is better than $80 at the dock; and, waterfront real estate is VERY expensive. So i guess we get a bargain. It's just the nickel and dimeing that goes on. No money for them if you are securely anchored.
It's just another avenue for municpalities to generate "revenue" (taxes) and the harbor master gets to hire another worker. So actually they will most likely lose money. So.... the locals lose again.
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