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View Poll Results: Who agrees, City maintained mooring fields are better than no oversight?
Agree City forced and maintained 6 15.00%
Disagree Open to freely anchor at will. 13 32.50%
State should address the real problem. Abandoned boats 18 45.00%
City owned mooring field and privately run by contract 3 7.50%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll

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Re: Beaufort South Carolina no longer a free anchor

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Is the town dock there still $1 a foot or less? If so, I suppose the moorings will be cheap $5-10 a night.
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Griffith said he will work with any owners who want to pay to use the city's moorings, once they are installed. Charges have not been determined, but he is finding mooring in other locations averages $25 a day and $200 to $250 a month.

Read more here: Boat owner balks at notice to move vessel from Beaufort River bluff | Local News | The Island Packet
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Re: Beaufort South Carolina no longer a free anchor

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In many people's mind, a boat seems to be considered more of a luxury item and believed that more $$ should be spent as part of this ownership through extra fees, taxes, etc. But at the same time, someone has to pay for some of the services that boaters take advantage of
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The city will now install and require the use of moorings where free anchorages existed for 300 years. They will now prohibit you from dropping an anchor into "our" mud, requiring you to hook up the "their" mooring. You will not have an option to not use "their" service.(despotism in service of capitalism?).
I have no issue with requiring payment for service such as a secure dinghy dock, shore taxi service or shower facility.
Unless the sailing members of the voters in Beaufort vote in a block and prevail this is a done deal -a tax on anyone wishing to anchor or moor in Beaufort, NC. It will be repeated anywhere a boat can anchor that ALEC or short sighted rulers stand.
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Re: Beaufort South Carolina no longer a free anchor

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Beaufort has a $100,000 federal grant for the field, and Griffin, who has a contract with the city to manage the marina, is paying an additional $33,000. The city would kick in about $29,600, according to grant documents provided by the city.

Read more here: Boat owner balks at notice to move vessel from Beaufort River bluff | Local News | The Island Packet
I should be able to stay for free. I already paid!!! What's the interest rate on the loan i gave them?
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Oh and the city pays to manage a marina? Last i checked if a private marina didn't make money they went out of business.
Then they kicked in another $29.5k. How is this making money for the city. IDIOTS. WHO runs this place!!!
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Re: Beaufort South Carolina no longer a free anchor

if there is no demand for moorings or dockside stay, there is no revenue generated.
empty marinas means no revenue,
No boater tourism revenue for businesses
float your boats where people and businesses welcome you fairly
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The city will now install and require the use of moorings where free anchorages existed for 300 years. They will now prohibit you from dropping an anchor into "our" mud, requiring you to hook up the "their" mooring. You will not have an option to not use "their" service.(despotism in service of capitalism?).
Actually, all they are restricting you from doing, as far as I can tell, is from anchoring in the midst of, or within 200 feet of, the mooring field... You can't anchor in mooring fields in New England, or Marathon, or anywhere else, either...

So, you'll simply have to anchor a bit further away from the town dock... Hell, isn't that what high-powered SUV dinghies are for? :-)

I don't like this trend any more than the next guy, but let's face it, we largely have fellow boaters to blame for the derelict boat issue that is often used as justification for mooring fields, and those that will still choose to patronize them... Try to look at the bright side, if this might motivate even ONE snowbird to bypass Beaufort and consider jumping out at Charleston or Edisto for what can so often be a beautiful bit of SAILING outside, perhaps there is some upside to this sort of grubbing... :-)
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Re: Beaufort South Carolina no longer a free anchor

$163K for 16 moorings. It's hard to know how many will be occupied at the proposed daily rate, but if you just figure that all of them will be 100% occupied at the proposed high end monthly rate of $250 / mo, that's $48000/yr in revenues. Operating costs are low but > 0. That's not a great ROI.

HOWEVER, if you only consider the $33K that Griffith ponied up, and assume a 50/50 revenue split with the city, the deal looks much better from his perspective. Heck, even at a 30/70 split it's a good deal.

This is not socialism, this is "crony capitalism" to use the kindest epithet. It's capitalists using the power of the state to transfer taxpayer wealth to fund their business, and then using the power of the state to enforce their monopoly.
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Re: Beaufort South Carolina no longer a free anchor

I agree with you Jon, "BUT"
A key difference is that I’m a fulltime resident here in Beaufort. I pay tax here, State, county and city. I have to pay to park downtown, what next will the city have a walking tax for foot traffic in the city limits? I have only been sailing for 4 years now. I had rather anchor out over a paid slip. The ICW should not be fare game for any city or county to levy tax in the name of whatever they want to in the betterment of the community. Bill the viewer of the great esthetic view our sailboats give, Hell you don’t tax the painter you charge the art center participant, right? Do you really think all sailors are rich? Most of us gave up the rat race in life to get away from this kind on force. Most of us spent all of our money on the vessel and good ground tackle so we could anchor out and hold well to the bottom as we go to town and spend our money in your towns. Early estimates I read in the Beaufort Gazette were as much as $200 a week. The average “hook sailors” annual budget is only $15 to $18,000 a year. You put another $2500.00? Add 10% to your budget all at once. Can you still have the car payment? The trip to the mountains? The river is not the city of Beaufort, its ours.
Oh ! my Dinghy is a 8 foot rowing boat not an SUV. We are of humble means. So to anchor 1 1/2 to 2 miles away is just not quite fair. It would be good exercise...

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For me this just became a place I'm MORE likely to make a planned stop at since I would feel there is more chance of finding a safe spot once I arrive. I have a bigger anchor and like to use it, but not in the middle of a pack of unknowns in tight conditions.
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Re: Beaufort South Carolina no longer a free anchor

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Dream on...
That article explains a lot about what is going on.

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Beaufort has a $100,000 federal grant for the field, and Griffin, who has a contract with the city to manage the marina, is paying an additional $33,000. The city would kick in about $29,600, according to grant documents provided by the city.
Read more here: Boat owner balks at notice to move vessel from Beaufort River bluff | Local News | The Island Packet

I have a brother-in-law who does this for a living. By this, I mean he works for a company that finds these type grants, and then takes them to cities, counties and states, as a package, with his company doing the construction work for them, and giving campaign contributions to the deciding officials as a pot sweetener.

I've asked him over and over again how long it will be, before we have to start visiting him in prison, but they seem to have it figured out.
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