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Re: Are sailing schools worth it?

It amazes me that people who insist that their doctor, dentist, lawyer, airline pilot and cruise ship captain have ten years of training and experience when faced with developing their own skills that allow them to function at the same level as professionals are unwilling to put in the time and money.

My wife has a US Coast Guard 100 ton Masters, she can handle a 55 ft boat alone in a gale and negotiate a close passing with a couple of 600 ft freighters ...That level of competency does not come from a two day course!!!

Of course learning from professionals is worth the time, effort and money.

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My first thought was perhaps a community sailing school has less assets should they get sued so they may want to CTA more than a large, international charter company that can absorb the consequences of letting a freshly minted sailor operate one of their boats. Just a thought. For some, suing people is a source of income.

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this was in san fran...it wasnt a bareboat charter group it was more of a community type sailing school and rental...

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Re: Are sailing schools worth it?

I took an ASA101 course and enjoyed it very much. I wanted to be able to practice the skills without having to ask permission from someone else to rent so I bought my own boat. I thought the course was a good introduction. Having someone who knew more than I did to show the right way to do something and share experience was helpful.

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Re: Are sailing schools worth it?

Realizing the romantic notion of sailing doesn't compare with the reality of it? Isn't it better?

No. I vote against classes. My first boat was bought knowing nothing. Only having sailed one day, the day before. It was a cal 20. Bought for $1500 plus $500 for a used engine and $200 a month for slip fees in Hawaii for eight months.

So you're saying for about that price I could have taken two week long classes? And that it supposed to be worth about the same as owning your own boat in Hawaii? All the people you meet that help you get going, all the memories I have of that time. It can't compare.

But it doesn't have to. Different circumstances lead to different options being worth more.

I still don't think of sailing as a paid lessons type of sport. Way too many ways to learn yourself. Way too many people that will take you out just to make a new friend.


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Re: Are sailing schools worth it?

Different sailors have very different needs and goals. For those who will only be taking simple boats out in generally benign conditions in protected waters, basic sailing skills and safety knowledge will likely suffice. That's hugely different from the preparation needed to be safe in areas with heavy traffic, harsh weather, or to cruise long distances far from shelter. Many who see sailing as a simple recreational escape don't have the desire or need to sail at a professional level, but can still be safe, competent sailors if they keep their sailing within the limits of their ability.
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It amazes me that people who insist that their doctor, dentist, lawyer, airline pilot and cruise ship captain have ten years of training and experience when faced with developing their own skills that allow them to function at the same level as professionals are unwilling to put in the time and money.

My wife has a US Coast Guard 100 ton Masters, she can handle a 55 ft boat alone in a gale and negotiate a close passing with a couple of 600 ft freighters ...That level of competency does not come from a two day course!!!

Of course learning from professionals is worth the time, effort and money.
I have the same restricted to 50 tons

my point at least was this was useless info or certification to take a simple keel boat out for the afternoon according to these guys

what they wanted was $$$ and courses and time into their system in order to take said boat out

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My first thought was perhaps a community sailing school has less assets should they get sued so they may want to CTA more than a large, international charter company that can absorb the consequences of letting a freshly minted sailor operate one of their boats. Just a thought. For some, suing people is a source of income.
what is cta? and yes I agree...completely think it had less to do with my skills or not than whatever it was they needed me to do in order to buy into their program



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what is cta? and yes I agree...completely think it had less to do with my skills or not than whatever it was they needed me to do in order to buy into their program



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I had to change "CYA" to *their* in order to make the sentence sound correct.

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Hi everyone,
Tomorrow I have a beginner's discover sailing course which I decided to take after much consideration. Not the learning bit....I WANT to do it. But the cost.
The discover sailing for 1.5 hrs is costing me 60$. If I take the whole course it is around 2000$ after which I will also get a certificate.

My question is....Is it the right way to spend so much(almost any school is around this range) for a week? Or is there other way
we offer a 2 hr. intro @ $75.00, a 20hr ( two weekends ) ASA 101/103 @ $595.00 ( $495.00 if you become a member) a 5 day 101-104 @ $1295.00. plus some other cool packages

These are group classes limited to no less than two, no more than 5

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Re: Are sailing schools worth it?

In my experience as an instructor I have found that many self taught sailors have some of the worst habits.

I would rather start with a "blank slate." (BTW - "blank slate" is a sailing term. I think it would be a great name for a boat.)

It is also essential that folks get a bunch of experience between various sailing standards.

Personally - I got my feet wet on a Tartan 10 racing on Galveston Bay, then took some lessons and went sailing for almost a decade, then got some additional certification before becoming an instructor.
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