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rbyham 02-22-2014 08:36 PM

Sailors beware
 
All is Lost?

http:// www.cnn.com/2014/02/21/world...x.html?c=world

Joel H. 02-23-2014 08:51 AM

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Link doesn't work for me.

whroeder 02-23-2014 08:53 AM

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A space between http:// and www. Corrected link Ship loses more than 500 containers in heavy seas - CNN.com

Group9 02-23-2014 08:55 AM

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I boat in the Gulf of Mexico and containers don't seem to be a big problem here. What we do see a lot of, is dredge pipes and the buoys that go with them, floating, that somehow get away from the dredge companies. (An Aegis cruiser being taken on high speed night runs, back in the 80s here from Ingalls, hit one one night at speed and was actually holed by it).

I used to have a picture, but can't find it, of a section of dredge pipe attached to two giant metal floats that washed up on the beach one morning. The idea of hitting that thing at night at the wrong angle was pretty scary.

newhaul 02-23-2014 08:57 AM

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Link didn't work and just to let you know ships loose containers all the time most sink rather quickly

vtsailguy 02-23-2014 07:35 PM

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If you find one, tow it home! Sell the Nike's!

HighTyde 02-24-2014 12:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newhaul (Post 1450594)
Link didn't work and just to let you know ships loose containers all the time most sink rather quickly

I would agree that the big steel containers aren't water-tight or water-proof and should fairly quickly fill with water and sink. Maybe someday future archeologists will find them and draw conclusions about our society? Unfortunately, I'm guessing most of the containers are packed full of boxes of cheap giveaways and other plastic junk from China that we really don't need but can't seem to resist buying at Walmart or the local 99 cents store. The kind of stuff that never decomposes and will be around forever.

miatapaul 02-24-2014 01:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newhaul (Post 1450594)
Link didn't work and just to let you know ships loose containers all the time most sink rather quickly

Well they say this is the largest loss "on record." I am sure there have been others, just not on record. They did say 20 foot floats typically floats for three months before sinking, and a 40 footer for about 9 months. So I don't think I would say that is rather quickly. Refrigerated containers are generally inherently buoyant, so they can float for ever.

aa3jy 02-24-2014 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by miatapaul (Post 1454538)
Well they say this is the largest loss "on record." I am sure there have been others, just not on record. They did say 20 foot floats typically floats for three months before sinking, and a 40 footer for about 9 months. So I don't think I would say that is rather quickly. Refrigerated containers are generally inherently buoyant, so they can float for ever.

Every so often this subject pops up... First hand experience with the subject matter..

A legendary offshore danger - Ocean Navigator - March/April 2013

I took these pix about 15 or so years ago coming back on a delivery from the Virgin Islands and about 2 days out from the Chesapeake Bay entrance.

Clay
S/V 'Tango'
Chesapeake Bay

Joel H. 02-24-2014 04:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HighTyde (Post 1454194)
I would agree that the big steel containers aren't water-tight or water-proof and should fairly quickly fill with water and sink. Maybe someday future archeologists will find them and draw conclusions about our society.

Yes, the conclusion will be;...... That they allowed an obviously deeply-flawed, damaging, (and potentially/eventually life threatening), practice to continue effectively un-penalized, in the interest of cheap transport costs.

Hey, I've got a wild idea... DON"T stack them so damn high!


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