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A space between http:// and www. Corrected link Ship loses more than 500 containers in heavy seas - CNN.com

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I boat in the Gulf of Mexico and containers don't seem to be a big problem here. What we do see a lot of, is dredge pipes and the buoys that go with them, floating, that somehow get away from the dredge companies. (An Aegis cruiser being taken on high speed night runs, back in the 80s here from Ingalls, hit one one night at speed and was actually holed by it).

I used to have a picture, but can't find it, of a section of dredge pipe attached to two giant metal floats that washed up on the beach one morning. The idea of hitting that thing at night at the wrong angle was pretty scary.
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Link didn't work and just to let you know ships loose containers all the time most sink rather quickly
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Link didn't work and just to let you know ships loose containers all the time most sink rather quickly
I would agree that the big steel containers aren't water-tight or water-proof and should fairly quickly fill with water and sink. Maybe someday future archeologists will find them and draw conclusions about our society? Unfortunately, I'm guessing most of the containers are packed full of boxes of cheap giveaways and other plastic junk from China that we really don't need but can't seem to resist buying at Walmart or the local 99 cents store. The kind of stuff that never decomposes and will be around forever.

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Link didn't work and just to let you know ships loose containers all the time most sink rather quickly
Well they say this is the largest loss "on record." I am sure there have been others, just not on record. They did say 20 foot floats typically floats for three months before sinking, and a 40 footer for about 9 months. So I don't think I would say that is rather quickly. Refrigerated containers are generally inherently buoyant, so they can float for ever.
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Well they say this is the largest loss "on record." I am sure there have been others, just not on record. They did say 20 foot floats typically floats for three months before sinking, and a 40 footer for about 9 months. So I don't think I would say that is rather quickly. Refrigerated containers are generally inherently buoyant, so they can float for ever.
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I would agree that the big steel containers aren't water-tight or water-proof and should fairly quickly fill with water and sink. Maybe someday future archeologists will find them and draw conclusions about our society.
Yes, the conclusion will be;...... That they allowed an obviously deeply-flawed, damaging, (and potentially/eventually life threatening), practice to continue effectively un-penalized, in the interest of cheap transport costs.

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