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Re: So why leave?

it is about ALL of it and everywhere is awesome.,
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Re: So why leave?

There are a number of reasons, each person will have his own.

It can be about weather - South Pacific is not a place to linger in the summer months with unpredictability of cyclones placing those who do at risk.

It can be about permits - Example: Indonesia allows 3 months and then you have to leave. You can leave and return almost immediately with a new visa but you have to leave.

It can be about money - example: New Zealand pays a full pension for 6 months while you're out of the country, then it gets pro-rated downwards according to some formula.

It can simply be about not believing that this paradise I'm in cannot be improved on. Some sailors arriving at the Marquesas believed it to be paradise. That was right up until they discovered the Tuamotus. But was this really paradise? Yep, right up until they discovered Bora Bora. And so the journey continues.

And finally it can be about the joy of new places, new cultures and new people. Not all paradises are beautiful. Many can be pretty average but there is an element that make visiting it a joyous experience. These places often have limited durability.

These are my reasons YMMV
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Maybe they leave because the anchorage got converted to a mooring field, living aboard became regulated by local ordinance and dinghy landing and upland facilities became unreasonably priced.
I presume you're referring to a place like Boot Key Harbor...

Marathon was never my idea of "Paradise" before the mooring field became a reality, nor is it now... But I'll bet if you polled cruisers who spent time there 20 years ago, the majority would agree that the increased 'regulation' of Boot Key Harbor has been an improvement...

It's not my style, but plenty of other folks seem to like it well enough... Go figure...


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It's not my style, but plenty of other folks seem to like it well enough... Go figure...

This is what my nightmares are made of Jon. It's the kind of image that has me scared as we head south. For me, cruising is about finding peace, and solitude. On Lake Superior I can go for weeks without seeing anyone. We are beginning our trek south this summer. My heart trembles when I see pictures like this.
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This is what my nightmares are made of Jon. It's the kind of image that has me scared as we head south. For me, cruising is about finding peace, and solitude. On Lake Superior I can go for weeks without seeing anyone. We are beginning our trek south this summer. My heart trembles when I see pictures like this.
Well, you're not gonna find a Lake Superior North Shore experience in S Florida, but it's certainly not impossible to distance yourself from the herd... Florida Bay, for example, offers some great opportunities to get into some pretty wild backcountry. Shoal draft helps, of course, but even with my 5+ draft and playing the tides, I was able to get into some real back of beyond territory...

Once you get over to the Bahamas, the possibilities are almost endless, with a bit of effort you can find plenty of solitude...

I find the key to finding solitude, is to study CHARTS, instead of the cruising guides... Everybody relies on the same guides these days, but it seems very few actually look at paper charts anymore, so that's where the rare gems are most likely to be found... :-)


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If you think Marathon is Paradise, then you haven't been cruising very long or far. The reefs are dead, the politics of the Keys are just ridiculous and everything is outrageously overpriced. And, there are no safe places to put your boat in a major hurricane.
Sail on, there are much better places over the horizon.
What location do you like for paradise?
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Because I can...

The grass is not always greener it just tastes a little different....
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Jon's pic got me thinking. While I like peaceful, there are also times when I like the energy of having other people around. I need both, therefore, I move on. No one place an ever have it all.
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Paradise is a state of mind, not a destination.
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Well, you're not gonna find a Lake Superior North Shore experience in S Florida, but it's certainly not impossible to distance yourself from the herd... Florida Bay, for example, offers some great opportunities to get into some pretty wild backcountry. Shoal draft helps, of course, but even with my 5+ draft and playing the tides, I was able to get into some real back of beyond territory...

Once you get over to the Bahamas, the possibilities are almost endless, with a bit of effort you can find plenty of solitude...

I find the key to finding solitude, is to study CHARTS, instead of the cruising guides... Everybody relies on the same guides these days, but it seems very few actually look at paper charts anymore, so that's where the rare gems are most likely to be found... :-)
Thanks Jon, that's good to hear. I've sailed in crowded areas, and I find no joy in packed anchorages that look like wally-mart parking lots. And good advice about how to use guides. Read them, see where the anchorages are marked, and then go somewhere else.
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