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Re: Ugly Boats

That middle boat is lovely, not very practical perhaps but falls in the eye candy category for me
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Who makes that little pilot house boat?

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The little pilothouse, 23 is a Compac-yachts 23.. Which I think the regular 23 is a stellar pretty boat... Compac-yachts 27 is also a very shiply little boat, but the pilothouse?

CP 23 Pilothouse, A Trailerable Cruising Sailboat from Com-Pac Yachts
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Versus this:


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I know...
But look at this 27 they make, just WOW pretty:

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Re: Ugly Boats

This discussion around Ugly Boats does remind me of the following quote by a well-known naval architect (who should know what he's taking about):

"One day I shall have two boats exactly the same. I shall sail in one and look back at the other to extract the last ounce of pleasure from my labour. And if it happens that I cannot have two lovely boats and become bitter, I shall sail around in the ugliest of boats I can find, looking at everyone else's nice boat, whilst they have to avert their gaze from mine."

See? Ugly boats do have their place after all!

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From a boat you can't see its "lines" so it doesnt really matter what they are like... Except for the narcissistic masturbation of it all.

Certainly nice looking boats, seaworthiness and seamanship have nothing to do with each other.


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The view from on deck compared to the view from another boat can indeed be different. The most extreme case, in my case, are the old Coronado 35 & 41.

From on deck and below they are very nice but from elsewhere they are, at best, an acquired taste.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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From a boat you can't see its "lines" so it doesnt really matter what they are like... Except for the narcissistic masturbation of it all.

Certainly nice looking boats, seaworthiness and seamanship have nothing to do with each other.


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One would think that there is not a universal basis for beauty in a boat. Just like evolutionary biologists think the sense of beauty in a woman is a quick guesstimate of her overall desirability as a mate in terms genetics and state of health and fitness, a point could be made that the sense of beauty in a boat is some holistic measure of how well the boat would perform.

After all, if you don't want to spend your life in an endless series of sea trials of every single boat you see, you need to narrow down the field with a quick assessment. Besides, you often get to do the sea trials in ideal conditions, but the boat has to take care of you when things get tough. So if we have evolved as sailors, that quickening of the pulse that we get from a good looking boat has to have everything to do with seaworthiness and seamanship.
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The little pilothouse, 23 is a Compac-yachts 23.. Which I think the regular 23 is a stellar pretty boat... Compac-yachts 27 is also a very shiply little boat, but the pilothouse?

CP 23 Pilothouse, A Trailerable Cruising Sailboat from Com-Pac Yachts
I mean this:

Versus this:


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I know...
But look at this 27 they make, just WOW pretty:
Oh come, you're picking on the little 23' pilot house? Heh that isn't fair.

The 27 I definitely like.

You also have to admire them for staying in businesses and continuously producing a 27.
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