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They hold about 75% charge after 3 years. They hold a charge so much longer than NiMH.
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I meant, how do they hold a charge on the shelf, compared to disposables.
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That is what I meant. They will have 75% of their charge after sitting for 3 years. These don't go dead after a couple months like NiMH cells.
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Right. NiMH are dead, these rechargables are 75%, what are disposables?
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They hold about 75% charge after 3 years. They hold a charge so much longer than NiMH.
Eneloops are NiMH. Not NiCad, but NiMH.

Minne: Name brand disposable alkaline batts also have good self-discharge rates. If you look on the package, you'll see a sell-by date on Duracell or Energizer about three years down the road. Keep em cool (in fridge, or even in the freezer), they'll last a very long time.
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I have found that if you live off the dock, rechargeable batteries are not much help, unless you have a 12 volt charger (like for my Ryobi cordless tools) or a solar charger. Many of the 110 volt chargers will not work well on the square wave inverters and most of us would rather not run our generators for hours on end to charge rechargeable batteries. I get very limited life from cordless tool batteries with 110 volt chargers.
Of course, if you are home every night or on the dock, I guess they would work just fine.
You could probably get by taking the actual batteries out of the case and hook up a wire to it so it'll plug into the boats 12v system. Won't need to use an inverter or use the charger for the battery pack.
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You could probably get by taking the actual batteries out of the case and hook up a wire to it so it'll plug into the boats 12v system. Won't need to use an inverter or use the charger for the battery pack.
I do that with equipment that operates on 12 volts dc, but on 4.5v, 6v, 3v, etc. it's not that easy. It would be a bit of a pain running around with a cord from a camera to the boat's 12 v system, taking pics. .
So far I've not found a good solution to AA or AAA need, rechargeable or otherwise, but I'm always on the look out for 12 volt (car) chargers for everything I can use them on. Both computers have them (12 v to 18.6v converters), as does our phone, but the usb trickle chargers are really slow for tablets, etc; they really do need the 110v chargers.
Unfortunately, we are a tiny market, so we are way down on the list for some of these developments. But one can always hope; like bottom paint that charges our batteries, yahoo!
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I like this idea, but I'm finding the number of things aboard that need charging is getting comical. Multiple iPads and iPhones (depending on who's aboard), handheld radios, jambox, cordless drill batts, lights and on and on. Getting ridiculous. When the genset fires up at anchorage, the spaghetti cords are everywhere.
Uhhh, haven't you ever heard of 12V cigarette lighter outlets? :-)

In my opinion, a boat can't possibly have too many of them these days, I believe I have at least 6 on my 30-footer... I've long been at the point where I don't want anything aboard that can't be charged or powered by a 12V plug. My TV, DVD player, De Walt battery charger, handheld searchlight, charger for camera batteries, or other any device needs a really good reason to be brought aboard if it can't be charged with a lighter plug, or a USB port, for me...

Blue Seas is now making a receptacle for USB chargers...



Or, simply pick up a dual port USB cigarette plug adapter, the latest now have a 1 A port for cellphones, and a 3 A for iPads/tablets, etc...


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I like this idea, but I'm finding the number of things aboard that need charging is getting comical. Multiple iPads and iPhones (depending on who's aboard), handheld radios, jambox, cordless drill batts, lights and on and on. Getting ridiculous. When the genset fires up at anchorage, the spaghetti cords are everywhere.

I'm curious. How long will these batts stay charged on the shelf? I don't swap out many AA or AAA batts very often, but I do have a stash.
I agree. It seems like everything has it's own battery and charger these days--I think one solar panel is devoted solely to computers, power-hungry little things...

To comment on a post from earlier, I have seen no problem with using these chargers with my Xantrex 1800 inverter. It's not sine wave but it seems to charge just fine.

I have some AAA and AA batteries that have been in the package since I left the US in 2008, probably not too much life remaining.
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Re: Go Green, Cruisers!!!

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Eneloop made big news 4? 5? years ago when they first came out, pushing the long storage life and small self-discharge. I was using Panasonic commercial cells in my old GPS and VHF at that point, which would hold better than a half charge in six months of closet storage, while most brand name NiMh cells would be useless in 30-60 days.
Last year I bought some new Eneloop, apparently there are two kinds now, with somewhat different characteristics (# charges, storage, capacity) as well as Amazon's own "Basics" and another brand. Still sorting them out but the Amazon brand also claim long shelf life and seem to be reasonably good too.

Paul-
"Problem with the Duracell is that some family members don't realize they are rechargeable and pitch them." I expected that, and stick a PTouch label on anything that someone else might touch the batteries in. "RECHARGEABLE BATTERIES, DO NOT DISCARD".
Hey, accidents will still happen but it can't hurt.

I'll also take batches (2 or 4) or the batteries and run some colored paint or nail polish around the end so they can be identified as "a batch" that are used together, i.e. so the groups of two or four get kept as a group and used as a group.

Seeing how the drugstores and hardware stores try to get a BUCK A PIECE ?! for AA and AAA cells these days...I just got tired of shopping for the sales on the good stuff. Stuff that gets put away with shelf life being a priority, still gets the disposables though. Sometimes even the lithium Thumpers.
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