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Morgan 38's and 42's .... or ???

Things I want to avoid on my next offshore boat - furling mainsail, centerboard, gasoline engine, extra small 'seaworthy' cockpit, unprotected spade rudder, cored hull (below the waterline), full keel and traveler in the cockpit...

The more I look into older Morgan 382,383,384s and the Morgan 42s, the more I think they may be exactly what I'm looking for.

Question....what other older designs might I be overlooking that also fit my criteria?

In addition to the 'avoid items' listed above - I want 38' to 42' (could go 44' but rather not and maybe down to 37' but no less), purchase price less than $100k to be offshore seaworthy for a total of no more than $100k outlay. Offshore means St Augustine to Bermuda a couple times a year.

So help plz....what other older designs am I overlooking?

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Re: Morgan 38's and 42's .... or ???

We have a Morgan 384. Solid boat. If you have any particular questions, feel free to send me a PM.

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Re: Morgan 38's and 42's .... or ???

Well there are tons of boats in that price range. I am a bit confused as I can understand wanting to avoid furling mainsail, and full keel (not that many boats actually have a full keel anyway) but why would you want to avoid a seaworthy cockpit? I would look for a post blister Valiant, Perhaps an Island Packet (I have some concerns on construction on them), Pacific Seacraft, Bristol 38.5, Wauquiez, Caliber, Contest, Corbin, Hallberg-Rassy, Malo, Najad, even Tartan. Take a look at the offshore boat list, lots on there can be had for under 100,000. I think I would choose just about any boat on my list before a Morgan. Not that I don't like Morgans, just like the others better. Some on my list might be over 100,000 but most not.

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Good list, thanks!
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We have a Morgan 384. Solid boat. If you have any particular questions, feel free to send me a PM.
Good to know, thanks - I'll be in touch.
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The Morgan 383/384 is at the top of my list. Joined by the CS40, Pearson 424 sloop, & Cal 40. As with all "older" boats, there are age related things to look for & consider. The newer (90s) Bene & Jeanne boats in that length range are attractive as well. Maybe even a Catalina. Good luck with your search!
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but why would you want to avoid a seaworthy cockpit?
Probably poor wording on my part (...just ask my wife...I have a knack).

I want a cockpit of enough length to be able to stretch out (min 6') on either side seat.

A number of 'traditional' blue water designs confine the crew to hanging their legs into a bathtub size cockpit and napping on the cockpit sole curled in the fetal position.

With an appropriate bridge deck and a quick draining cockpit, I'll gladly trade small cockpit volume for the ability to sleep stretched out in the cockpit.

That's my thinkin'...

Sure am looking hard at the Morgan 38's.....
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I only have one question: Why do do you want to avoid a full keel? If I were thinking of another offshore boat, I would want that full keel for the added stability and solid tracking advantage it seems to offer. All the rest of the stuff I agree. I have a Morgan 33 Out Island with a full keel, huge amount of room, both interior and cockpit, sails like a dream, tracks like it has autopilot, and rarely heels more than 15 degrees in 25 knot winds on a beam reach.

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Gary, it always warms my heart when I hear a boat owner speak well of their boat...kind of like a happy marriage. Like most folks, I'm of the opinion that every boat is a compromise to one degree or another...more so when we ask a boat to do more than one or two things well. For me, I don't want a full keel for all the 'standard' pro/con reasons but I am very happy for those that do ;-)

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Loving my 384.
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