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Gary says: " 6 decades on the water, an average of 70 trips a year, had a right whale surface about 20 feet on day off Ocean City, MD, but never, ever had a close call of any kind and don't personally know anyone that has."

I'm with Gary. You live in Hawaii - you have more chance of being shot by some idiot packing a gun than you have being killed by a whale.

YEAR NO. OF GUNS REGISTERED
2005 5,219
2006 6,527
2007 7,317
2008 9,018
2009 13,182
2010 10,952
Source: Honolulu Police Department

Stick with the whaley people.



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Uh oh, did you ^^ say 'guns'...?
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No. In Hawaii, they take great pains to NOT report the almost daily minor shark attacks. The only time you hear about a shark attack in Hawaii is when it is so bad they can't hide it. Wouldn't want to frighten any of the tourists away.

Might as well comment on the whales while I'm here: Whales rarely enter Mamala Bay. I suggest you confine your sailing to the area inside Diamond Head if you are so concerned. I did have a humpie spout close enough to my boat to soak all my guests with whale snot just inside the Diamond Head buoy though. Kaneohe Bay would be even better (Except for the rather large tiger sharks resident there)

Maybe you should not worry too much however. Here in SE Alaska, we are noticing that more humpies are staying the winter every year, no doubt for the abundant food supply. We have watched trollers working Chatham Strait with a pod of whales leaping full clear of the water among the boats (No doubt to the intense annoyance of the fishermen). We have had a whale come under our boat while at anchor in a tiny cove and have been surrounded by a pod of whales at sea; even encountered a whale sleeping on the surface. Never a problem or frightening moment.

As far as collision goes, I believe the whales are smarter than a city bus and less numerous. Therefore, in my opinion, they present less risk to a sailboat at sea than does The Bus to a pedestrian in Honolulu.
Why do you presume I sail Mamala Bay? Only sailed there once. I sail out of Oahu North shore out of Haleiwa. There are tons of whales there. One was even in the Harbor Channel.

Here is recent video of the area:

Whales Outdo Viral Banzai Pipeline Video In The Most Incredible Way (VIDEO)

Funny all of you jump on what and what not a sailor should and shouldn't be afraid of. We all have our fears (or we all should fear somthing). A bid wave surfer I know made a comment about the saying "No Fear". His comment was BS- fear is what keeps you alive. I am not so much concerned with my own safety, but more for my wife and young kids. Would not want them to get slapped by a whale fluke or whale land on them.

My main question from the op is:
"So do these whales use sonar to know there is a boat around? "

It would be nice to know when that whale is rising from depth and preparing to breach, it knows I am close by.


One poster did provide some good informatioin about sonar and toothed and baleen whales- thanks for that.
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Why do you presume I sail Mamala Bay? Only sailed there once.
Because 80% of all the sailboats in Hawaii are in the Ala Wai, about 5% in Kaneohe Bay and the remainder scattered around the state.
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I sail out of Oahu North shore out of Haleiwa. There are tons of whales there. One was even in the Harbor Channel.
Ah! One of the tiny but hardy group of North Shore sailors. That explains a lot.

I am quite familiar with the area, having lived on Oahu for thirty years and sailed out of the Ala Wai for 25 years making frequent passages to the neighbor islands; also crewed on a sport fishing boat out of Kewalo Basin . I circumnavigated Oahu by kayak with Bob Twogood in 1990 or '91 and crewed on several Molokai to Oahu Race escort boats. I have made four trips between Hawaii and the US Mainland under sail and have spent the last two years exploring SE Alaska.

You may worry about whales if you like. I have never personally experienced or heard a first hand report of any problems with the beasties, except from fishermen here in Alaska who do not like the competition.

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Who knows what a whale knows? As someone mentioned earlier, they seem to be smarter than your average city bus driver. I think they are highly aware of what's around them, but sometimes they make mistakes. Here's a good story (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikLGXdR_wtg) where the boat and divers had gotten too close to feeding whales. I think those whale knew exactly where the boat, divers, and the tow line were located. Apparently these guys dive the world looking to get close to sea life and supposedly they now have a new respect for sea life. (Ugh) I think the answer is, however, treat them with respect and be watchful. When you see feeding behavior (including diving), then mosey on outta there. Or you could not go sailing during the height of their season to minimize your family's chances of encountering one. There's always a way to mitigate one's fears...

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