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I learned a long time ago that theres two positions on a boat: the owner, and, everyone else.

So I stopped sailing on other peoples boats, and bought my own boat



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Re: Pissed off crew

Did you check the forecast to see if he had weather related reason to leave 1 day early?
When was he planning to let you know?

I'd be pissed too. My gut tells me he found another crew member in his 9 day layover, or the original crew member re-appeared. Assuming (I know that's a bad thing) that he didn't leave shorthanded.

Seems like crappy thing to do.. just to save $175 ( his portion of your generous offer) He had to know that changing a ticket last minute costs $$ and that you had to jump through hoops to clear your calendar.
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I would be pissed, if I lost the money in this circumstance. Hard to judge the skipper without their side of the story. Weather, etc?

The email to the skipper was a farewell email. Not that you would want to take another chance with him, but it certainly poisoned the well and you won't be given one either.

Live and learn. Sail for free, if you like, but don't pay to do it.
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Re: Pissed off crew

I am constantly amazed at those of you who will expend your own money to crew on someone else's boat. It is work. They should be picking up the tab for you.

If everyone refused to do this, the owners would be forced to pay for crew and/or use delivery captains.

Hey, it's a free country and a free market, do whatever you want...but I second the recommendation to buy your own boat and tell these clowns to pound sand...
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Slayer: make sure you tell Hank. Hank should take him off the "Crew Wanted" Pool.
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Slayer: make sure you tell Hank. Hank should take him off the "Crew Wanted" Pool.

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I am constantly amazed at those of you who will expend your own money to crew on someone else's boat. It is work. They should be picking up the tab for you.

If everyone refused to do this, the owners would be forced to pay for crew and/or use delivery captains.

Hey, it's a free country and a free market, do whatever you want...but I second the recommendation to buy your own boat and tell these clowns to pound sand...
James how can you call something you enjoy work? Climbing mountains, hiking trails, running marathons all require effort. It's not sitting on a beach drinking a Piña Colada, but work? Now I do tell my long time girl friend it's "like" work to make the idea of me being away unsupervised for a week or so more palatable to her. But for me it's a great and much needed adventure. And I have met some wonderful people who are now long time friends. And there are other perks. Numerous times the boat's owners have taken me out to dinner in very nice restaurants, and I was even treated to a fabulous brunch at the Annapolis Yacht Club (Egg and crab Benedict..yummm!). What I can't understand are these people who pay to fly around the world to hit a little white ball around someone's well manicured lawn. But hey, to each his own.

And though I have thus far been lucky, I do assume some risk. But for me it's worth it.
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I am on the side of "it is work" only because you are on someone else's schedule. If it was "vacation" you would be setting the itinerary. Why you would pay your own transportation to crew for someone is the first question that popped into my head, after all you did have to send a resume.

Just my $.02
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Re: Pissed off crew

For what it is worth, I think your good bye letter was premature, if you wanted to keep the lines of communication open. At this point you do not know his reasoning for aborting your plan and you have severed relations with him for future adventures. Is that a lose-lose equation? Also, I think the cost of your ticket taken in context of what it would cost to finance a sailing trip from Bermuda to Baltimore is almost insignificant and could be easily overlooked, given possible circumstances at the other end. It is always better to talk things out...and then sent the poisoned dart as needed.
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Re: Pissed off crew

thats true too...maybe he never even left who knows!

anyways...

Im always amazed at how thin minded some people are on here...the world can be as big or small as you want it...have no idea why everything must always be perfect for you, spend as little, risk as little and basically have it all planned out or its considered foolish...

basically look for somebody else to ride with...look for easy going responsible people and if you indeed get tired get your own boat...

but its not like you can fly your own boat on whim whenever you want right...?

there is always a compromise to things...

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