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What boat for a family circumnavigation?

What boat and why for family of 4 to do a circumnavigation on a moderate budget?

I am leaving the question somewhat ambiguous as in part my curiosity is philosophical as well as pragmatic.

I know there are several boats that could and have done it. I have read the ‘Bluewater’ lists and gone a round or two in a few of the threads but what I am trying to figure out is what is the best fit for us.

We currently sail a Martzcraft/Roberts 35. It could do it.

While we have cruised thousands of miles mostly coastal and like alot about her however for world sailing we are starting to consider whether she is perhaps not right for a trip around the globe. She is perhaps a tad small, as racers in a former life we also have to confess that she is not quick.

We would still prefer to go as small and simple as possible, but what is small, simple yet comfortable for living aboard for 3-5 years with school aged children?

Our plan is a‘standard’ circumnavigation but with the current Gulf of Aden situation it would most likely be via the Cape of Good Hope.

For the sake of a guide let’s say 40 - 55ft.

Budget is very variable. In reality we will spend what we have to get the right boat. Say loosely 150k-400k.

Boats we have considered

Peterson 44/46
Stevens 47
Amel Super Maramu
Bristol 45.5
Hallberg Rassy 42/46
Brewer 42
Saga 43
Montecarlo 43


All advise and thoughts welcome.
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Re: What boat for a family circumnavigation?

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This might do you. It's less expensive and should be fairly well kitted out already. The drawback is that it's across the Tasman.
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Re: What boat for a family circumnavigation?

Thanks Scott. Across the Tasman does not worry me, if anything it gives us better angles on the Pacific islands.

Is this the same boat as the Morgan Out Island?? If so is there some concerns about build quality on these?

I ask as I do not know. Otherwise, it would look to be a slightly larger version of our current boat, which is perhaps where we are heading. Maybe not great sailing performance either?
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Re: What boat for a family circumnavigation?

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Look at the Frers HRs - they are much quicker, higher pointing boats than the Enderlein boats: 40, 43, 48.
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Look at the Frers HRs - they are much quicker, higher pointing boats than the Enderlein boats: 40, 43, 48.
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I had heard that and so we have been restricting our search to 90s/early 2000s (by reason of budget) Frers models.
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Re: What boat for a family circumnavigation?

You should add the whitby 42 to your list. Long keel for stability and safety. Center cockpit with generous aft cabin ( refuge from the kids!) lots of tankage! The only down side for me is the ketch rig, I never really liked the ketch rig very much. And on the whitby, the mizzenmast is too big, contributing to weather helm. Whitby made lots of them and they are generally considered better built than the fort Myers Brewer 12.8 (42).
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Re: What boat for a family circumnavigation?

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Is this the same boat as the Morgan Out Island?? If so is there some concerns about build quality on these?
I think it might be a later type model but I think a lot of the OI are ketch rigged. I have never heard of issues with them but could never be 100%. Don't think it would ever be considered a racer given its design. I think it does have an encapsulated keel which I think is a plus. Just thought it might be servicable for your goals and save a bit of money at the outset.
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Re: What boat for a family circumnavigation?

although heavy it is similiar to a couple of the boats you posted

I think the westail 42 is a hefty and comfortable familiy cruiser...many of them have an enclosed cockpit(center cockipt)

center cockpits are ofteh preffered for families because they are usually dried and less exposed cockpit wise but most importantly you have an aft cabin that can be used for the kids...

separating adults from kids is sometimes needed jajaja
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Re: What boat for a family circumnavigation?

If I was thinking fibreglass then the Amel would be my choice, comes with a front bulkhead and Henri knew what he was doing when he made those as circumnavigators.

However a steel boat would give me a more secure feeling when things go bump in the night.

Something like this. 1990 Southern 50 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
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Re: What boat for a family circumnavigation?

I wouldn't be too quick to add that Morgan OI to your list, if I were you... :-)

Of course some have gotten around, and Earl Hinz sailed his all over the Pacific for years... But they are all getting pretty long in the tooth, and 2 have been abandoned off the US East coast recentlly - one in the Salty Dawg rally last fall (after reportedly having a bulkhead come adrift, and hull to deck joint 'issues'), and another 350 miles E of Norfolk just a few weeks ago, in conditions that were not reported to be all that extreme... Don't write off Morgans entirely, however, I've always thought that boat of Andre's is a pretty sweet boat, and could suit your needs very well... Finding one in your part of the world, however, could be a bit of a challenge...

Of your list, I might be tempted by the Saga 43, but that's largely due to my preference for an aft cockpit... But Auspicious is right, you couldn't go wrong with a Frers-designed H-R, I think those are wonderful boats, and one of the few center-cockpit boats I would care to own, and I was really impressed by the overall quality and performance of the 43 I delivered last year...

Not to mention, I haven't heard of any H-Rs being abandoned when the going got tough, lately... :-)
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