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Re: Miami to Bimini

Seems like the thing to do would be do have a backup plan to sail around Miami, the Keys, or sw Florida or maybe dry Tortugas. Then, if the weather window to cross the stream and back doesn't materialize, the trip's still not wasted.
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I don't think we ever took weather into account when sailing. Sometimes we motored the whole way because the water was glass, and sometimes there were 25 footers.
25-footers, eh? Damn, that must have been one hell of a blow...

Well, I certainly find the "never taking weather into account" part credible :-) When Hurricane Isacc passed over the Florida Straits 2 summers ago, with forecast winds at that point of 65 knots, the maximum wave height NOAA was calling for in those waters was 18 feet...


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I think that was a typo...
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What "well found" sailing vessels can't make it to Bimini when it is blowing out of the North?
You obviously don't read the news papers or watch the TV very much, or you are quite new to Fla. There were several very seaworthy yachts lost between Miami and the Bahamas in the 80's, in northerlies. I have personally had to cross or operate vessels in the stream in northerly winds, and in over 50 years as a professional mariner, I have rarely experienced more dangerous and life threatening conditions.
I am very glad you have been so fortunate in your crossings of the Gulfstream, but prudence is the mark of good seamanship, not boldness.
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Re: Miami to Bimini

Are you saying that the Gulfstream never produces 25 foot waves?

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Well, I certainly find the "never taking weather into account" part credible :-) When Hurricane Isacc passed over the Florida Straits 2 summers ago, with forecast winds at that point of 65 knots, the maximum wave height NOAA was calling for in those waters was 18 feet...


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Last March, my girlfriend and I crossed from Miami to Bimini on two SeaDoo waverunners.
I am not at all familiar with "SeaDoo waverunners", but are they actually capable of going 80 statute miles on the fuel they hold? It would probably take 20% more to return against the current, therefor one would need to go more like 70+, with absolutely no safety factor, making it realistically about 80 miles.
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Re: Miami to Bimini

We brought fuel. We needed it on the way there, but on the way back, we had 1/3 of a tank remaining. The key is being able to go 35mph which is their most efficient speed. It was 5-8 feet seas on the way there, so we could only realistically go 15 - 20mph.

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I am not at all familiar with "SeaDoo waverunners", but are they actually capable of going 80 statute miles on the fuel they hold? It would probably take 20% more to return against the current, therefor one would need to go more like 70+, with absolutely no safety factor, making it realistically about 80 miles.
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Re: Miami to Bimini

There is quite a difference between "several" yachts being lost in a decade and a well found boat not being able to make it through a Northerly in the gulfstream. And, I am not advocating such either. At a minimum, it is quite uncomfortable. Short steep confuse seas that are produced by a north wind in the gulfstream can give your vessel quite a pounding.

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You obviously don't read the news papers or watch the TV very much, or you are quite new to Fla. There were several very seaworthy yachts lost between Miami and the Bahamas in the 80's, in northerlies. I have personally had to cross or operate vessels in the stream in northerly winds, and in over 50 years as a professional mariner, I have rarely experienced more dangerous and life threatening conditions.
I am very glad you have been so fortunate in your crossings of the Gulfstream, but prudence is the mark of good seamanship, not boldness.
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We brought fuel. We needed it on the way there, but on the way back, we had 1/3 of a tank remaining. The key is being able to go 35mph which is their most efficient speed. It was 5-8 feet seas on the way there, so we could only realistically go 15 - 20mph.
Pouring gasoline into the tank on a hot motor in 5-8 foot seas. You are a man of much, much greater intestinal fortitude than I, that is for sure.
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Re: Miami to Bimini

The fill area is located high and in the front. The engine is inside and protected from the sea.

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Pouring gasoline into the tank on a hot motor in 5-8 foot seas. You are a man of much, much greater intestinal fortitude than I, that is for sure.
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