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Re: Best outboard motor for a small inflatable?

We have a Yamaha (it says "Mariner" but its really a Yamaha) 2hp. It is paired to our 8' Walker Bay inflatable with an air floor. The motor is a mod-1980s, so it is a two stroke.

We LOVE it. works great. Super Super simple - nothing to go wrong. No reverse or transmission - just turn it backwards to go in reverse.

This surely doesn't get the boat up on plane, for sure . . . but it putters along at a nice clip. VERY fuel efficient (but yes, you do have to mix oil).
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Re: Best outboard motor for a small inflatable?

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I bought a long-shaft 1980s 4HP Evinrude, But it doesn't have the fuel line or the tank. What kind of fuel line do I need - would a universal one from West Marine and a regular 2.5 gal can do the trick?
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I bought a long-shaft 1980s 4HP Evinrude, But it doesn't have the fuel line or the tank. What kind of fuel line do I need - would a universal one from West Marine and a regular 2.5 gal can do the trick?
Yes. You just have to match the fuel hose diameter to the barb on the engine. Note that you'll end up with one of the new "EPA-compliant" ventless fuel tanks, so make sure you get the appropriate version of the universal fuel line.
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One thing I've learned about those ventless fuel tanks is to always disconnect the fuel line from the engine after use. When the tank sits in the sun, it pressurizes and can force fuel past the float valve in the carb while the engine is off, leading to difficult starting and running later. Make sure you open the vent in the cap *before* re-connecting the line to vent the pressure for obvious reasons.
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Re: Best outboard motor for a small inflatable?

the new tanks, vent systems, flow meters, all that jazz are a nuissance I truly hate them

how hard is a simple knob vent? no it has to have safety features you know just in case you lose your brain somehwere...

take all measures to unfix what these guys(makers) are trying to fix for you...disconnect lines is a good one...

op so does your evinrude 4hp have an internal tank or not? if it doesnt go look for older smaller tanks with traditional vents and stuff...put an inline filter in the line with a bulb, double up on the clips and use some good quality hose line if you are anywhere near ethanol.

if you use your fuel sparingly a splash or seafoam each tank goes a long way in making life easier for you.

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Re: Best outboard motor for a small inflatable?

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the new tanks, vent systems, flow meters, all that jazz are a nuissance I truly hate them

how hard is a simple knob vent? no it has to have safety features you know just in case you lose your brain somehwere...

take all measures to unfix what these guys(makers) are trying to fix for you...disconnect lines is a good one...

op so does your evinrude 4hp have an internal tank or not? if it doesnt go look for older smaller tanks with traditional vents and stuff...put an inline filter in the line with a bulb, double up on the clips and use some good quality hose line if you are anywhere near ethanol.

if you use your fuel sparingly a splash or seafoam each tank goes a long way in making life easier for you.

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I have one of the new "vent-in" only tanks on my Tohatsu 4HP 4 stroke & was concerned about the high pressure that developed when it was I the sun. I removed the little "one way in" valve from the tank cap.

However, after doing that it appeared that it was harder to start when cold. When squeezing the bulb I could hear bubbles in the tank. Not sure if the tank has to be “pressurized” before starting or what?
Once the engine started it ran fine.

Anyway, I bought a new $50 cap & the starting problem went away. If tank pressure is a concern, I would suggest just loosening the cap a bit, rather than modifying the one way valve as I did. An added benefit is not having to go to EPA jail if caught with a modified cap. If you loosen the cap, make sure no one sees you do it, fumes heap bad.

I have read the tank will vent outwards at about 5 or so pounds of pressure? All I know was that my tank was assuming the shape of a football when out in the sun.

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Re: Best outboard motor for a small inflatable?

I feel so bad for you guys with that epa fear...

seriously loosening a cap is suspicious? or ilegal?

man

yeah I wouldnt mod a new vent style thats why I though searching around for old small tanks would be a better deal

One question then you cant use old metal tanks and vents then up in the states or what?
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op so does your evinrude 4hp have an internal tank or not? if it doesnt go look for older smaller tanks with traditional vents and stuff...put an inline filter in the line with a bulb, double up on the clips and use some good quality hose line if you are anywhere near ethanol.

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No, it does not. That's why I can't even test it until I get a fuel line and a tank.

This may sound like a stupid question, but you guys are talking over my head a little bit with all these fine points on venting or not venting lines and caps, and I have zero experience with outboards.
Are we talking about a special marine fuel tank, or will a regular jerry can like one you use to carry extra gas (say 1 or 2.5 gal) do the job?
I don't necessarily want to invest another $150-200 bucks for a new fuel line and gas tank to find out the motor doesn't work, if I don't have to.
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Re: Best outboard motor for a small inflatable?

OK, so this was sent to me yesterday and I opened it at work. Almost closed it immediately, for fear someone would hear/see it, but its was just sophomoric enough that I had to watch it to the end.

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Re: Best outboard motor for a small inflatable?

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No, it does not. That's why I can't even test it until I get a fuel line and a tank.

This may sound like a stupid question, but you guys are talking over my head a little bit with all these fine points on venting or not venting lines and caps, and I have zero experience with outboards.
Are we talking about a special marine fuel tank, or will a regular jerry can like one you use to carry extra gas (say 1 or 2.5 gal) do the job?
I don't necessarily want to invest another $150-200 bucks for a new fuel line and gas tank to find out the motor doesn't work, if I don't have to.
this is why I suggested looking for older used tanks...the usually come with a hose, bulb and you are ready to go...

since you havent tested the engine btw...it will more than likely require some sort of fix, be that a simple carb cleaning or plug changes etc...

search on craigslist for used tanks and stuff...

if you really dont want to spend any money since you dont know if the engine works or NOT...by pass the quick connect and hook up a hose and clamp it onto the pickup inside...

get a soda bottle and mix a small batch of 50.1 gas oil mix...mix it up well and start it in a big water tank...

that way you dont invest so much, you do however have to invest a little since you dont know if it works which is an issue.
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