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Old 05-03-2006
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Hi Folks
This is my first post here, and we all know it starts with 'THE DREAM'
sailing the ocean watching the birds, whales,throwing the handline off the stern for a fresh fish dinner and anchoring near some paradise isle with the 1 in ten million sunset. well the bug finally got to me since I've been a commercail fisherman for the last 23 or so years(charter fish also) I have to say DANG I'M A STINKIN GREENHORN --LOL--never sailed a day in my life IS that going to stop me HECK NO!! I do have plenty of open water time (((years-n-years))
here are my thoughts first i need a boat since $$ is a big factor I probly could drum up about 25k for a sailboat I was looking at a 33' ranger older but seemed solid ((of course I would have to set it up to my likein)) so I figure once we have a boat should take 6 months to a year before I am ready
DESTINATION---I would have to say --SOUTH-- since I live on cape cod ((bout a mile from the big blue)) South is the direction WE want to go

this is as far as i got for now! ---mostly drueling for a light wind warm night offshore somewhere---I do HAVE A 22 FT BERTREM /honda 200 with the sale of that may help with the $$ for a decent boat.

Since ya all sail a lot what are some decent offshore sailboats?? say o 33/40 ft in length?????-----------o and whats a jib??-
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get a laser

$1500-2k, and the book "invitation to sailing" it's an older work- but i taught myself to sail when i was 12 with it- memorize it and you'll be in good shape to start sailing that laser. baby steps.
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get something small- around 20ft or less. i say get a laser cause they're good and easily to find/buy/transport/sail AND they'll teach you the basics of the sail, boat, and water interactions quickly. sailing a laser in 10-15 knot winds (esp. onshore) and you'll learn to sail (and swim) damn quick. start small, with a good boat (i.e. laser) and you'll progress quickly with effort.

don't think you can go bluewater right away- or even coastal cruising on a 35 footer- i'm 23 years old and been sailing for almost 12 years now- and still am learning- take it slow- it's rewarding on cape cod or in the keys (i prefer cape cod, and maine, to the keys, etc.) it's not where you're going, for the most part, it's how you get there- sailing.
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You did not mention where you live; but in most coastal areas there are sailing clubs/schools that you should take some time to check out. Also since you mention that you are a commercial fisherman you might want to check into the local sail racing (Yacht Clubs, etc) and get on a crew so you can get acustomed to how a sailboat works and how they are controlled in different wind conditions. You should realize that many offshore distress calls are made by people who do not have the proper training/competence to sail in the wind/weather conditions they run into; and that a sailboat is in most cases not capable of outrunning the weather before it hits when sailing offshore. There may also be conditions where the weather prohibits you from coming into a protected bay or harbor which would then leave you out in the storm to deal with the gale force winds and 20'+ swells (at least here on the NW coast this happens regularly).

So start off slow; I'd suggest starting with a ~20' keelboat getting sailing books and some formal instruction. If you are a quick study you can gain competence quickly but realize that as the wind increases the skill required and ability to deal with dangerous situations also increases exponentially. Know your (and your crew's) sailing abilities/limits and try not to put youself in situations where they are exceeded.

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Formal instruction does have its advantages. I took formal sailing lessons, even though I've been sailing for over 20 years, just before I bought my boat, as a refresher. I think it was money well spent.

Joining a sailing club or crewing for someone is also a good stepping stone to owning a boat.

It will probably take you at least six months to outfit a boat for long-term cruising. You really need to learn the systems on the boat inside out, and as you learn about the boat, you will find that there are things you want to change for long-term use.

I sail out of Buzzards Bay, and if you're interested in crewing, let me know via PM.

to Keelhaulin- He does say that he lives on Cape Cod... so that would probably be a good indicator of where he will be sailing initially.
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