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Boat maintenance is an ongoing chore. Every few years there has to be a major refit. We have had several in the 25 years I have owned Lealea, now 40 years old. She needed a new engine in 1993 and a major engine overhaul In 2010. The standing rigging was replaced in 1996 and again in 2007. She got an Awlgrip paintjob in ’96 (She’s definitely due for a new one now – *next Summer) and we replaced much of the interior furniture in 2007.

Now the old girl definitely needs some TLC. The mast support beam is showing signs of deflection and the main bulkhead has visible water damage. The remaining original sapele veneer plywood is finally beginning to show its age, peeling and chipping, looking shabby next to the newer sections replaced just 7 years ago. The bulkheads you can’t see are worse.

Basically, I have to take down the mast and gut the hull then put it all back like new.

Here is the plan:

First I have to secure a place to do the work. An empty two car garage will do. I think I have that part covered.

Next figure out how much and what type of materials to order (We are in SE Alaska so it is not as simple as driving to the nearest lumber yard)

Then, when the materials and tools are assembled in the workshop, take down the mast. Easy enough with the deck stepped mast mounted on a tabernacle. It is a one man job, though it is quicker and easier with two.

The interior of a Vega has been described as “Ikea furniture” – very simple. It can be removed and reinstalled with nothing more than a screwdriver.

It sounds easier than it is. But it is not complicated.

Keeping it a simple as possible, I intend to use the old pieces as patterns, fabricate and finish the new pieces in the workshop. Then reinstall the new interior in the boat.

What I am not sure about is what to use to seal and finish the new furniture. I intend to use marine plywood but have not decided what veneer to choose. (Laura has the deciding vote). The original furniture is sapele, aka African Mahogany and is the default choice.

Now that I have written this out and tried to visualize actually doing it, I realize that I do not know if the hull will compress/deform with the main beam and bulkhead removed. Glad I thought of that. It is not something you want to learn when you are trying to put it back together. Anybody know?

Then, also, of course, there is the inevitable "While we have it apart we might as well...."


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Re: Daunting Project

I suspect the Vega will be tough enough to essentially hold its shape OK, but extra jackstands evenly loaded will provide some piece of mind there, I'd think. Perhaps temporarily inserting a scaffolding jack in place of the mast support (or near enough to allow the Re & Re might be some extra insurance on that score too.

I'd probably be considering a final finish/veneer incorporating some light coloured formica type material to brighten the interior - I think the so-called 'Herreschoff' look can be very attractive, clean and bright. Varnished wood trim in contrast can look very sharp, but I realize not everyone likes that look. A friend changed just the interior cabin sides from dark, stained teak to ivory or white laminate on his Ericson 33 and brightened things up considerably.
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25 years with the same girl is a long time. I applaud you.
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I should mention that the boat will be in the water during this process.
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The videos will be forever changed.. I liked seeing the sexy 70s retro interior..

You have the skills.. but damn.. SE Alaska, in the water, with winter approaching... How long do you expect it to take?
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Where are you? I have been in Ketchikan, Wrangell, Kake (twice), Sitka and Angoon this week. Actually, Angoon is tomorrow. Would love to drink a beer and watch you work
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I should mention that the boat will be in the water during this process.
For the whole refit? I thought you were looking for a 2 car garage to put the boat in. If it was me doing this project, it would take more than one winter. Keep the, While-we-have-it-apart-we-might-as-well-list as short as possible. Also, take pictures, and keep us updated.

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Re: Daunting Project

youre fine in the water...we opted to not do all bulkheads at one time but 2 at a time to spread loads, we didnt have to jack up the cabin top or anything as the hull on my boat was solid enough.

Im sure youll do a much better job and more detailed since you have had and cruised your boat so much but there are a few pics that might help you to visualize bulkhead replacement while on the water, if you care to check out on my refit thread...

in any case good luck!

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How long do you expect it to take?
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Where are you? I have been in Ketchikan, Wrangell, Kake (twice), Sitka and Angoon this week. Actually, Angoon is tomorrow. Would love to drink a beer and watch you work
I am in Petersburg and will be here for the winter, but I am flying up to Juneau for a doctor appointment on Wednesday. Back on Thursday. I probably will not start until later in September.


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