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Your thoughts thru experience?

Greetings All,

I know this question could of been posted else where, but I think it can be a general discussion.
1974 Catalina 27's were manufactured with an Atomic 4 gas inboard and with a standard outboard well. What is your experience please about the use and performance using a 9.9 Merc. outboard in the std. outboard well?

Also I was introduced to a new video series on You Tube called "Yacht Teleport" a young Australian couple sailing thru the Northwest passage and eventually returning home to Australia. One of the best video series I've watched.

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Re: Your thoughts thru experience?

Hey Kalina,

I have watched their videos as well. Like you said, they are pretty awesome.
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Re: Your thoughts thru experience?

In my opinion the 9.9 merc is just about right for a Catalina 25.
The Catalina 27 is significantly heavier.

People have put the 9.9 on a bracket on a Catalina 30 however.

It really depends on how much pain you are willing to endure and what kind of sailing you are going to do and how often.

If you have 2 knots of current and a head wind and some chop I don't think the 9.9 will push the 27 against it.

If it is dead calm a 2 HP will slide you along at two or three knots.

If you only need the motor for 5 min to get on and off a mooring and day sail you may be fine.

If however you have a slip on a river you may find you can never leave and return safely.

Then their are an infinite number of scenarios in between.
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Re: Your thoughts thru experience?

I had a 9.9 regular shaft on a 30 ft boat. Things improved dramatically when I went to a 15 hp long shaft! I could actually go where I wanted when I wanted.

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Re: Your thoughts thru experience?

We sail those waters and it seems that each year we get caught out there at least once when we are SO glad to have inboard diesel to get us home. We've towed Kirby 25's twice that lost their rudders, always in the worst weather. There are no moorings, only docks. If you tie up at Port Dalhousie Pier Marina you will avoid the 3-6 knot river current at DYC. As Welland Canal increases/decreases the outflow it's not just the current speed that changes, the current pattern changes too. There is almost always a counter current near shore that makes docking a challenge. In light air and the best of conditions the outboard will likely fit your needs, but it's the worst conditions that require greater reliability of the inboard.

I have no handling experience with any Catalina but when the builders of the day got to 27 feet inboard engines sold boats, outboards didn't. CS built 27' with standard Yanmar diesel, many local competitors followed by switching from Atomic 4 or offering diesel option. When you go to resell that will affect your ability to sell. There is a CS 27 ashore at PDPM the marina owner has for sale in the open lot along with about 10 other boats they are selling that were abandoned by owners. They all say $2000.00 on them except the Shark at $1,500, but the price sign on the CS blew away.
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Re: Your thoughts thru experience?

One of the (few) perceived advantages of an outboard over an inboard can be the ability to 'assist steer' by turning the outboard. The C27s standard transom cutout mount doesn't appear to really accommodate that very well, and the engine is in a lazarette so not necessarily even easily reachable..

So with that ability lost, combined with the ever-present risk of cavitation in a seaway (when you need power the most) and the loss of aesthetics (any boat looks better without an outboard hung on the transom) I think this choice is hands-down to the inboard, of which ever type.
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Re: Your thoughts thru experience?

I had a C27 (78, I think) with a single cylinder 6 HP Petter Diesel in it. It actually was plenty of power for Southern California, although the weather conditions there are generally pretty benign. I repowered with a 12 hp Universal Diesel.

I agree with Faster that the problem with outboards comes when they aren't in the water when conditions are rough. How often that happens depends on the motor shaft length and how it's mounted. I would think that having it in the cutout on a C27 would be better than on an outboard bracket
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You know... I agree with Faster a lot... Weird...
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Re: Your thoughts thru experience?

Thanks David... btw - we've met so please feel free to call me by name!!

btw II.... was talking with your PO the other day, Dennis said to say hello.
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Re: Your thoughts thru experience?

Will do, Ron.. Please reciprocate to Dennis. We're taking good care of his boat, and hope to head north this summer..



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