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Although their treatment was heavy handed . Still this was not a smart move .
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IF it is all true, it's a story that needed to be told.

Orange County Sheriff's Department Task Force does NOT have the authority to board your boat and search it without probable cause and a warrant, and IF they have authority for safety inspection it is limited ONLY to safety inspection equipment. Their "hand off" to the USCG also sounds suspicious.

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Fryewe, I completely agree with you. Seems like a situation that should be remedied with backlash to the sheriff.
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What wasn't a 'smart move'? I don't see what he did wrong.
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Please tell me what was not a smart move?
I've transited that coast many times, checking in as far north as Frisco without anyone saying a word about it. There is absolutely no regulation that I've ever heard of that you must check in at San Diego. I believe that the regulations are that it is necessary to clear in at your first port of call, when arriving from another country, not the first port one passes.
To add insult to injury, it is probably illegal for local LEO's to board a vessel that hasn't been cleared in, unless they have specific knowledge that the vessel is engaged in illegal activities. At the most, they might stand by on their own boat, while a federal agency is called to take over.

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Do you mean this article?
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It would have been nice if Capt. Greg King of Jennifer Sanders' 64-ft staysail schooner Coco Kai could have had a pleasant last leg from Cabo San Lucas to Long Beach to wrap up a circumnavigation that started with the 2006 Baja Ha-Ha. But it wasn't to be.
What did he do wrong?

You can enter through any port of entry, not the first one you pass.

Seems a weird story to me, unless we are only hearing one side of it.


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OK , first of all . I agree with everybody here , you check in at your first port of entry not the first port you pass . However since the early 90's San Diego port police have had not the most friendly reputation . IMO due to the fact a lot of contraband was slipping by them , that is why they want to be the first . Not that I have any first hand experience with the contraband ! No, I stand by my comment .... Not smart , all they had to do was stop at San Diego customs , witch by the way has excellent docks and what ever you need , walking distance .
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Ten days free moorage at the police dock too.
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Ten days free moorage at the police dock too.
10 days that's nice ,I did not know that . Thanks .
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It's all pretty vague out there. The Lat38 news is vague too. Those who have the guns make the rules.

I would stop at San Diego, too, but there does not seem to be such a rule in the CBP entry documents. Only folklore. Security at San Diego used to be tight, locked gate, police presence, but now, after 9/11, nothing. Maybe because they already know....we have already been thoroughly tracked and identified. I've been waved off from SD while trying to dock there. They said "We're too busy." We said, "What about passport stamps?" They said "Nah."

That police response sounds rather heavy handed. And the OC yahoos would seem to way out of their jurisdiction.

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