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Yup.... so are pigeons. But pigeons generally don't bomb boats with their droppings.

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Luckily I stay in South Africa and not such rules I will have a look for the water pellets.
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Luckily I stay in South Africa and not such rules I will have a look for the water pellets.
The MARPOL convention of which I speak is an INTERNATIONAL Treaty...and probably does affect you down in South Africa.

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Scare Eye

We've had a problem with swallows and blue martins. I've counted ten birds on the spreader and nine on the mast-head, all at the same time. My wife said that the windex was a bird amusement park. On the internet I found what a called scare eyes, which are plastic of some kind, tear-drop shaped and have an eye on one side. I purchased a pack of five, attached them at intervals on a line, and haul them up with the main halyard when we're in the slip.

The results are mixed, but the bird problem has been reduced. Since deploying the scare eys, we have not observered any birds on the spreader and only up to two birds at a time on the mast-head. We really can't say for sure, but the amount of time birds stay on the mast-head seems to have been reduced. Also, it seems that on very calm days, the effect is less than on windy days.

Anyway, the bird crap problem has not been eliminated but greatly reduced,
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"However, the plastic shells are still a MARPOL issue IIRC." They're gelatin, and biodegradeable. Had to doublecheck to be sure. The ingredients are also biodegradeable, food quality dyes and all. Yeah, I know, "food don't come in those colors".

Seagulls are a problem in the US because they are federally classed as "migratory waterfowl" and Uncle Sam wants to own you if you bother them, much less harm them.

Today I sailed past a boat that had a big old gull sitting squat in the middle of the bimini top--surrounded by CD's flashing like strobe lights in the sun. Thursday I went past another one, a couple were ON THEIR BOAT trying to shoo the gull off the canvas. With the spinners and everything else, the gull just nested in where they couldn't reach.

I also used to call them flying rats until I found out that when you have a beach picnic and there's no trash basket around...you can even throw bare bones up in the air, and they'll magically vanish into gull maws. Now I think they're sometimes useful flying rats.

If it wasn't a crime, I'd suggest taking bait-sized fish, inserting razor blades or pins, and leaving them out as bait. That's the way Inuit used to hunt polar bears, with a wound-up piece of sharpened cartilage in a frozen meat snack. Bear eats the meat, meat melts, cartilage springs open and kills the bear from within. Oughta work pretty well on gulls...and birds are smart that way. Once a couple die, the others find someplace else to hang out.

But I'm gonna stay legal, I'm gonna start an IRS-recognized religion, the Brotherhood of the Most Holy and Ancient Order of Coloring Between The Lines. In the belief that the good lord had only six days and intentionally left some jobs for the faithful to complete, we're gonna have a religious mandate that requires us to color in all those obviously unfinished gray birds, including gulls.
And if the paintballs are plastic, we'll just have to recover them afterwards to meet MARPOL. Assuming the damned gulls don't just eat the paintballs, and line up to fight for more....

Specialty market for herring-flavored paintballs? Or just use a melon-baller on the cheapest fish you can find, and shoot 'em with frozen fishballs?

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I like the frozen fishball idea, but your neighbors at the marina might not like it... fish fragments get rather fragrant after sitting a bit in the sun.

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try "predator eye". works VERY well. just dont put it up when birds are around, they will attack. my buddy has a very amusing story of doing just that.
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Cruising Dad...You have issues Dude. I love that!!!!\

Alright, here is an excellent opportunity to test the Urban Myth....Throw some Alka Seltzer up in the air and see if they explode! But, please catch it on video. By the way, the vindictive little bastards are watching you and sh*t on your boat because they can!!!!! lol.
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