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Yes, but the Raritan ElectroSan is still not allowed to discharge overboard in a NDZ. No marine heads are allowed to discharge in an NDZ... and the major cruising areas in the US are now mostly covered by NDZ laws. Buzzards Bay is a No Discharge Zone, so you still need a holding tank.

Also, boats, as cruisingdad has pointed out, are not the major problem. The major problem with sewage and pollution are often municipal waste treatment systems that are badly designed and point runoff sources like lawns and gardens in heavy rains, where the fertilizer and pesticides get washed into the rivers. Agricultural runoff is a huge problem as well. When I lived in Missouri, the runoff from industrial hog farms caused river kills stretching for miles upon miles. I say river kills because the waste killed everything in the river—fish, plants, insects, etc.
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Yep. The NDZ are expanding and a Type I will not do a lot of good there. I guess my thoughts were (however, very unrealistically) that if every boat had a TYpe I (whether you pump out or not), the waste you produce is actually better than what the city dumps right back into the bay. Also, outside the US, imagine what the Bahamas, or Carrbean, or any small 3rd world country would be like if the cruisers there dumped their TREATED and CLEANED waste in versus the "other". Fsih would be safer, coral better, etc.

Just a dream. I know... but every little but helps. The chlorine tab is a much cheaper and easier step in the right direction. Of course, you are dumping the chlorine in the water, but it should decompse and would be such a small percentage that I think it would have minimum impact. Better than virus/bacteria. Plus, it would keep the unwarned guest from passing out when they flush the head.
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Here is how keep the holding tank smelling minty fresh:

When I pump it out, I rinse with fresh water. Then re-pump out. Then I add 1 cup of Clorox back into the tank. I find that the over the counter-stuff just does not eliminate the smell.....

I have to say I am still amazed that there are sailors out there who don't get that being an enviromentalist is important and consistent with our love for the Ocean. Hunters organize to protect the enviroment..ie, Isaac Walton League, Ducks Unlimited. Surfers organize. It seems to me incosistent with the spirit of what sailing represents to scoff at environmental laws.
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Surfesq—don't let the chlorine bleach sit in the tank, as it will attack the plastic or metal the tank is made of.
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I will get screamed at for this... I am sure... but I don't think the laws are stiff enough. I also do not believe they really go after the cause. Educate farmers about crop rotation versus reccomended crops (don't even get me started on that), clean the sewage before you dump!!!, require strict (and observed) rules for marinas to maintain and man pumpouts. Add more if there are not enough. If we can go bomb the crap (no pun intended) out of some country half-way across the world, why can't we take the time in our own country to clean up our own mess. Let me ask you this: How many pumpouts would just one of those bombs buy? Just one bomb??????

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Depending on the plastic tank he has (Surfesq), it may not deteriorate it at all. I called the manufacturer and they said they ship very concentrated chlorine in those tanks. Household products (especially the tablets) would have no effect. He did reccemend watching out for the rubber seals and gaskets in the head... but that is what the teflon tab is for.

At least that is what my research has led me to at this point. Of course, pour in the chlorine at your own risk and check with your own manufacturer.
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Ronco Tanks in California makes my tank (and for many other manufactured sailboats/boat). It is Polyethylene. Their # is (714) 259-1385. Very nice and knowldegeable.

Domestic Sanitation Systems in Ohio makes the hoses. (800) 321-9886.

Just in case anyone reading this has the same mfg, they can call to make sure they are safe.
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I use the holding tank a fair amount when I am sailing so much it wont hurt it. I guess I could flush in a bit of water with it. I agree about the lack of pump-outs. I understand its a real problem in the Northeast. There seem to be plenty on the Chesapeake. Its a hassle but its worth it.
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