Originally Posted by Dewey Benson
Typo Captn NERO,
Sorry bout that!
The 36 C and the independence are NOT a Ron Holland Design those are both Bruce King designs. The Ericson site has them under the Ron Holland Link but if you read the brochures that are there you will see they credit Bruce King.
Please note the underbodies are classic Bruce King on those two also. I have seen many examples of the Independence and two of the 36C. I have also sailed both. the Independence I would class as a character boat, cute but silly. The Cruising 36 is an interesting design with a dangerously oversize cockpit. For offshore work larger and more drains and perhaps a bridgedeck would be in order.
There were very few of these Hollands produced. You will find that while they retain the light air capablity of the King they are much stiffer as things pipe up.
Ok guys, thanks for the correction. I confused some literature between the two 36's. I'm so sorry; I certainly do apologize for that. In any case it is true that I still haven't been close to either 36.
The ericsonyachts.org forum lists 5 Holland 36's in case someone wants to track one down. From a supply pespective, there are at best a few opportunities per year from the brokerages seen in Yachtworld.
Looking into this further I just saw that Marty King (Bruce's son) said that the inspiration for the 31C was that they wanted a scaled down version of the 36C so they needed the trunk cabin on the 31 instead of the flush deck of the 36C to make it manageable inside. Another interesting quote is that the late 80's 200 series (32-200, 34, 38-200) were designed based on a memo to make a more f*&#able design. My goodness.
The Ericson brochure does say that Ron Holland's 36 design was the inspiration for Dave Pedrick's Tri-axial Force Grid, so that also came out of it all. I suppose that has something to do with how they brought it in a 11,600 lbs.. Related to the late 80's Ericson TFG boats, we've noticed downward settling movement of the cabin sole in the centerline galley area of up to 1" when they are in the water. Mine is about 1/2". Sometime after launch you can see this on the base of the galley cabinet where the molding is attached to the sole and the bottom of the cabinet becomes exposed with a slightly different stain appearance. It does make one wonder about how things would go in really rough seas.
As for Bruce King, Marty recently reported that dad has retired. I was looking for his works the other day and noticed that he designed the Hinckley Sou'wester 70. Really he did, I double promise this time.