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RogerConrad 10-13-2006 09:53 PM

sundance weekender 20
In August, I picked up hull number 39 of the Sundance made by Elmar boat co of Michigan in 1974. I am attaching a link to my website, but I would like to hear from ANYONE who knows somebody or has seen or owns this model of boat. I understand from limited findings on the net that this boat was only in production for about 2 years. I also understand that it has the following specs, but would like those that are marked with a "?" confirmed.
LOA 20
LWL 16
Beam 6' 10"
Disp 1300# ?
Draft 16" to 4'?
Keel weight 275# ?
Designer unknown?

yadusky 07-11-2008 09:44 AM

Sundance 20 new purchase.
As of today, I am purchasing hull number 2 of the sundance 20's. it's a 1972/73 and in immaculate condition. it's got about half the cabin that yours has - I'll ask the previous owner if he's interested in talking to you about what he knows abou the boat.

I hear it's wicked fast, do ya like it?

souljour2000 07-11-2008 02:57 PM

sundance 20
Those look like fast little suckers....just bought a 1983 Hunter 20 so had to comment....mine is slow but roomy enough for me and my two young boys.I wanted a project and I picked it up in decent shape for 200.00....wish my Hunter had the kind of speed you should get from that hull-shape...the Hunter 20 weighs 1700 lbs....400 lb in the keel. I hope you let us know how she sails and anything else about her production.

sailingdog 07-11-2008 03:22 PM


Considering that was roger's last post on Sailnet and almost two years is pretty unlikely that he is going to reply any time soon. Welcome to sailnet. I'd highly recommend both of you read the post in my signature. :)

RogerConrad 08-14-2008 04:46 PM

Roger is replying
Although a bit slow in replying, I am glad to see at least one other owner, hull number 2 (yadusky). I will try to contact you, but please feel free to contact me at roger02 att mts dott net.

RogerConrad 08-14-2008 04:50 PM

second post to up my count
I can only e-mail after I have posted 10 times so this is my tenth time. Bear with me moderator, I am trying to contact another Sundance 20 owner.

RogerConrad 11-02-2008 12:47 AM

update on the sundance 20 weekender
Other than yadusky and another boat I saw boat I saw on the net around the time I was buying mine, I have heard of not others.

In the meantime, I have published an the equivalent of an APB in not only on a variety of forums but in Good Old Boat magazine this past month. I have had no replies, which likely means I have a very rare boat.

At any rate, regarding a previous poster's question querying speed, I have been able to wring 7.7 knots out of her with the rail buried and (at one point) taking green water into the cockpit. Average speed most days is 3.2 kts however.

yadusky 11-25-2008 03:17 PM


a couple of months ago, in a thunderstorm over otherwise pretty smoothe water, we went "zero-freeboard" with a crew of four hiked what I suspect was a bit above that pace (in fact, maybe up around 10-12kts)...and then turned out of it because the wind was too unstable to bet on ourselves any further..

I think with better trimming and stable wind, it could cruise at 10 if there was enough counter balance - we had about 650 lbs windward and didn't feel like we could hold it 2 more seconds. I fault the captain (me) for too much sail, and perhaps some centerboard/rudder anemia, but it was fun while it lasted!

My estimate is not scientific, per se, but we were cruising faster than I could ever sprint on land (about 12 mph).

on a windless day, we can do 2 knots (somehow). On a breezy day, perhaps 5. On a day of wind, well, well see...but I'm more pleasure than adrenaline driven, so it may be a while

ckgreenman 11-25-2008 05:01 PM

Rare or not that does look like a fun little boat. That's pretty much the size and type I'm currently looking for. If you hear of anything similar please don't hesitate to let me know :)


yadusky 11-26-2008 09:17 PM

Chris, the hull is pretty well shaped - fast bow, great lines at about 10-15 degrees, the size is great for one man sailing, you just need a block set for stepping the mast...I could imagine an 8m or 9m boat would be a lot of fun as well, since anything over 16' is really a lot easier with 2 people anyway...

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