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Your choice for a ~30' passagemaker?

What boats would be on your list for a used bluewater passagemaker in the 30' range? What's the very best ~30' bluewater boat? What's a the best "bargain" ~30' bluewater boat?

(FYI - "Best" for the purposes of this thread implies sturdiest construction/safest in bad weather far from shore)
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There really is no "very best" when it comes to sailboats. Some will be better suited to a given purpose than others.

One very good 30' sailboat that is suitable as a bluewater passagemaker is the Alberg 30. John Vigor describes it as one of the 20 small boats to take you anywhere. A couple more good boats in that size range, but considerably more expensive are the Nauticat 32/321 or the Hallberg-Rassy 31.

Some more boats that would probably qualify are the Southern Cross 31, Contessa 32, Nicholson 31, and Westsail 32.

Part of the problem with pretty much all of the boats is tankage... the fuel and water tanks are fairly small in size, at least as they were designed.

I've sailed on the Alberg 30, the Contessa 32 and the Westsail 32, but haven't sailed on any of the others.
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A Yankee 30 is really well built, pretty cheap these days. There's a Yankee 30 website out there somewhere that describes the boats in detail. The boat's mentioned by sailingdog are also all great for passagemaking, with the Westsail being the most accomodius, but the slowest sailing.

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...with the Westsail being the most accomodius, but the slowest sailing.

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I'm reading a cruising book TRAVELS WITH YETI in which the author describes sailing on various boats prior to selecting a mid-30s boat for a five year cruise.

Thet joined another couple for a offshore leg on that couple's Westsail 32. The author writes "we were caught by a cold front as we crossed Cape Cod Bay...the winds were 20 to 25 knots and the sea was very rough. XXXXXX could not make significant headway with these seas due to her blunt bow shape's reaction to being hit by a wave. Each wave seemed to bring her to a halt." He expressed concern for their survival due to a close lee shore "...XXXXXX would not be able to claw her way off...", and subsequently said "I vowed then and there that our boat will be able to sail well to windward."

The insight is that certain character boats like Westail have more significant drawbacks than just being slloooooww. Perhpas best used as a dockiminium..

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Baba 30 (pronounced Bubba). Bob Perry designed, classic good looks, modified full keel, cutter rig, made for blue water passagemaking. Tawain built in the 70s and 80s, so you have to look for typical issues. Not cheap, as they were very well built. Average $50-65K. I know a couple of people who own them and absolutely love them - especially when telling tales of high winds and big seas...
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The Ontario 32!
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Hard to find...

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Awesome suggestions...thanks! I've been researching several of your suggestions and really like the Baba 30.
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The Allied Seawind (Gillmer design) is another able passagemaker.
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