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Old 11-20-2006
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If this thread is truly not going to be Fight Club Part 2 then the standing rule should be no religion or politics. The Dixie Chicks comment made me laugh, but I can see it taking us in a different direction.
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I simply hope that, through the results of this latest election in the U.S., that all other nationalities may realise the truth- that we are all not bloodthirsty, warlike, warmongers- as one might rightfully assume from recent actions taken. I apologise for my part, and ask that I may be again viewed as a human being, rather than a willing participant in this latest adventure.
Why did you focus on the Dixie chicks comment and not the Empresa comment that instigated the comeback?
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Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice Giulietta is just really nice
I still don't get it!!

What do the Dixie Chics have to do this?? Am I missing something??

Really confused now.
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Guilietta - it is an Americanism; dealing with the rather vocal political activity of the Dixie Chicks {and other musical and movie celebrities}.
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Back to sailing...Went out this weekend, beautiful weather, but no wind. Motor-sailed to a nearby cove and had a five boat raft up to watch the Leonids Meteor shower.

Probably the wrong thing to get up in the middle of the night and sit in the cold. Just got back from a two week sail across and back in the Sea of Cortez, and I am fighting a cold. I think I am officially sick, but not of sailing. Can't wait to get out again.
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Back to sailing...Went out this weekend, beautiful weather, but no wind. Motor-sailed to a nearby cove and had a five boat raft up to watch the Leonids Meteor shower.
In the northeast US, winter has not officially arrived until another month. However, most sailors here - myself included, have already put their boats up 'till Spring of '07. Aside from pursuing other diversions, we keep the sailing spirit alive with virtual venues - such as SailNet.

I have an observation to share, regarding the use of the iron genny by sailors. We have a Nauticat 33 ketch - pilothouse motorsailer and have found that she does sail quite well - when the wind is blowing at a constant 10 knots or more. Therefore, when faced with a time-driven destination, we normally motorsail in lighter winds. One advantage we do have is, with a 90 hp diesel and 22" 3-blade prop, we typically can pass most sailboats - also under power.

I have noticed a surprisingly high percentage of sailors choose to either motorsail - or power only, regardless of conditions. Is this mostly due to having slow boats under sail?

Of those here who choose to be honest, what are the various reasons leading to this decision?
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I was sailing the British Virgin Islands two weeks ago and was amazed at the number of sailboats I saw (both monohulls and catamarans) with bare poles going from island to island. And this was with steady trade winds ~15 knots. I've heard so many stories about catamarans and their upwind capabilities (or lack thereof) that I could sympathize with them when beating upwind, but so many large monohulls were jockeying around under power that I started to wonder why those people didn't just charter a power yacht to begin with. I never once saw an appropriate daymark used by any yacht motorsailing, either.

I'm a die-hard and won't use the diesel unless the speed drops below 1kn or I've miscalculated my speed and need to make it into a harbor by sunset/tide change. That's for coastal in-n-outs; passagemaking is a bit different.
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I have noticed a surprisingly high percentage of sailors choose to either motorsail - or power only, regardless of conditions. Is this mostly due to having slow boats under sail?

Of those here who choose to be honest, what are the various reasons leading to this decision?
TB, I'll give you my confession. I have sometimes succombed to a mutinuous crew of children and spouse that have a predetermined timeframe for when we should arrive at a particular destination. (especially when we are planning to meet up with friends. The problem arises when our destination is dead into the wind and tacking back and forth significantly increases the distance and therefore time traveled.

I'm still trying to get the family to enjoy the sailing aspect of our excursion as much as I do but, I sometimes I make compromises so that I don't turn them off from sailing.

I'm a firm believer of the axiom that the difference between a power boater and a sailor is that the power boater uses his craft to get to a destination, while sailors are alreay at their preferred destination when they set foot on their boat. Unfortunately, sometimes your crew prefer to be power boaters.
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Re: stick to sailing

When I saw the original title of the thread awhile back, Fight Club for Sailors, I decided then and there that I had no interest in the thread and have stayed off it. If everyone ignored it it would go away on its own. I am replying to this only because I saw it in the Recent Posts and had a quick look at it as I often do. We don't really need to have a fight club, there is enough of that already in the world.
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When I saw the original title of the thread awhile back, Fight Club for Sailors, I decided then and there that I had no interest in the thread and have stayed off it. If everyone ignored it it would go away on its own. I am replying to this only because I saw it in the Recent Posts and had a quick look at it as I often do. We don't really need to have a fight club, there is enough of that already in the world.
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Obviously, based on the number of posts and views there are a number of sailors that enjoy the give and take of the Fight Club thread. Why does this bother you? Just ignore it if you don't like it. And before you go off and say that there are no sailors on that thread, read some of the sailing and boat maintenance comments.

Perhaps you should stick to sailing comments if you want to post on this thread. Isn't that what you're looking for after all?

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