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"Someone ??? Herrumph !! "

I didn't want to put too fine a point on it.

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My my, don't we have thin skin, a bit over sensitive I'd say. BTW it's Capt.kermie not Lootenant and I apologize for not qualifying as one of your spelling BEEZ. Stuns'l????? that is a new one to me what is it (some sort of sail)?
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"ground tackle" pronunciation would really raise my eyebrows if I heard it, that's a new one on me.
As for some of the other terminology it would not surprise me if it was pronounced Boatswain when the term was first coined, but given the intelligence and education of 16th & 17th century sailors combined with that goofy British accent (I am of British decent) and perhaps a few swigs of rum it is no wonder it was slurred to Bosun over time. Same goes with other nautical pronunciations, they got corrupted and slurred over the centuries. The latest one I hear is "probably" shortened to "prolly", give it a century and no one will remember "probably" Most slang pronunciations stem from verbal laziness and I am sure "leeooward" is from too much rum. Just my .02 cents worth, no need for anyone to get their balls in a knot.
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This board is getting increasingly boring as a fight breaks out over the most inane topics. I would say it is cabin fever but it is only the first week of December.
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Stuns'l is slang for Studding Sails; I thought everybody knew that.
Just like to'gallant. Top Gallant..

And I think your reffering to a Juice Harp. Its that thing you place on to your teeth and you pluck it to make those weird twanging sounds.

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tigerregis has a little shameless behaviour in the past
CaptKermie, possibly you are right about 16th century sailors. What do you think of your contemporaries who use "words" like "Bud, MDG, Marlies, Mickey D's etc?"
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Stuns'l is slang for Studding Sails; I thought everybody knew that.
Just like to'gallant. Top Gallant..

And I think you're referring to a Juice Harp. Its that thing you place on to your teeth and you pluck it to make those weird twanging sounds.
Juice Harp ? Sounds like rampant political correctness to me. The thing has been called a Jews Harp in England for 500 years. Why , I don't know, but that is what it is called. I fail to see anything offensive in the term myself. Originally called a gewgaw apparently, has no connection to Judaism or the Holy Land and it's uncertain why it became known as a Jews Harp. Jaw Harp and Juice Harp are both 20th century inventions according to http://www.jewsharpguild.org/history.html

ps - You may be right Pigslo. Only a couple of weeks to go until bloody Christmas is done and dusted. Two days after that I'm outta here for some peace and quiet. O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! He chortled in his joy. (with thanks to Lewis Carroll)

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"Someone ??? Herrumph !! "
I didn't want to put too fine a point on it..
As long as that point is a beam reach I am content.

One of the interesting things about pronunciation is how it's effected by geographical location. Now I know this board is largely overun by septics but the US is a good case in point. Everyone outside the US has an idea as to what constitutes an American accent yet such a thing does not exist. The same goes for English in the UK. Tiny little place it is but there is still no such thing as an English accent. My guess, and it is only a guess, is that many of these shortened terms (e.g boatswain to bosun) came about as people from different regions all drawn together in the same crew tried to make themselves understood or alternatively that a word pronounced in one dialect became the dominant form. Weird and wonderful stuff and you'd have to admit that it is hard to figure out how lieutenant managed to become leftenant.

ps - poms, aussies and kiwis are banned from participation but anyone else care to have a stab at explaining "septics" ? It's not nautical I know but then neither was the Jews Harp.
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There is no correct answer since there would be no handle. The coffee at the Captain's table is served in small glasses.

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Septic comes from the word SEPTIC meaning alive like the bacteria in the tank that eats the poop.
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Septic comes from the word SEPTIC meaning alive like the bacteria in the tank that eats the poop.
Yes indeed young porker but why did I use the word in the context I did ?
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tdw "it is hard to figure out how lieutenant managed to become leftenant". It's actually the other way around in English - "leftenent" became "lootenant" . The US changed that but why did they not change to "colonel" from "curnel". Although if you go back to it's roots, which were French, it should be pronounced "loo"
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