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More trivia (this might be too easy)...

Who was the first sailor to circumnavigate the Earth?
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"You can expand that a little, the old beakhead would be a pretty bumpy place as sea and hence the origin of the expression "beats the crap out of me". Ahem !!"

Only problem with that is "crap" didn't come into use until WWII when American GIs kept using the "Crapper", the most common brand of British toilets. Kind of like "American Standard" over here.
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More trivia (this might be too easy)...

Who was the first sailor to circumnavigate the Earth?
Solo?
Slocum, No.
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Though all of these origins are murky, my understanding is the "steer board" was basically an oar tied on one side of the stern of a double ended Viking ship. You didn't want that side against the quay for fear of damaging the rudder. So the side away from the rudder became port.
Stupid of me not to realise that but it encouraged me to look up larboard and starboard. Originally Laddeborde and Steorborde. Borde in old English was the side of a ship, ladde was laden or load , steor meaning to steer.

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Knothead: Indeed, Slocum was the first solo, but who was the first ever (with a crew, obviously)?
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"You can expand that a little, the old beakhead would be a pretty bumpy place as sea and hence the origin of the expression "beats the crap out of me". Ahem !!"

Only problem with that is "crap" didn't come into use until WWII when American GIs kept using the "Crapper", the most common brand of British toilets. Kind of like "American Standard" over here.
You saying I'm a liar ? (Ahem !! ) You'd be right. That was utter bullcrap just couldn't resist it.

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Here, I will explain THE REAL reason why its called port and starbord.

Many centuries ago, when the Portuguese started sailing, they thought the world was a cube. They started sailing South along the coast of Africa, and as they headed South, land (port) allways stayed on the left side of the boat.
Portuguese word for it BOMBORDO (good bord) but the English, and the Dutch (and the French with the arrival of beneteau, LOL) that started sailing MUCH later, modified it to Portbord.

The other side, was the ESTIBORDO (Side of the Stars), and the English started calling it Starbord.

Remember the Portuguese (and some obscure Spaniards) were the first to sail, record and write about it (not the first because teh Fenicians, the vikings all sailed, but never wrot nothing, or wrote little).

Cartography started in Portugal and Italy (when some Portuguese moved there).

As for the head, the portuguese word is Sanita (sanitary), because when doing the DO people belived they were sanitized thru their poo hole.

Why the British started calling head??? Each one poos from where he "bloody hell" choses.

The port satarbord thing we learnt in school, the head I was just joking.

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The first to circunavigate was a Portuguese countrymen of mine called:

Fernão de Magalhaes. You know him as Magellan
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Knothead: Indeed, Slocum was the first solo, but who was the first ever (with a crew, obviously)?
Got me. I've probably learned this at some point in my life but I'll be damned if I can bring it up now.



"Why the British started calling head??? Each one poos from where he "bloody hell" choses."

CD, look what you've started.
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Solo?
Slocum, No.
The honour is usually given to Magellan but in fact he died in the Phillipines half way round and was ultimately succeeded by Juan Sebastian Elcano. He was the most senior officer surviving after Magellan died in the Phillipines and assumed command of the fleet.

Slocum was the first recorded solo circumnavigation.

To muddy the waters however, there is a claim that one of the Admirals in Zheng He's (Zhou Man) fleet continued on from Africa, across the Pacific and home, which if true would be the first circumnavigation of which we know. The claim by British author Gavin Menzies is hotly disputed and his book dismissed as pseudo history. True or not it's a great read.

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