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Mick Young 12-03-2006 03:56 PM

Great day, Bad Day
Hi All. Yesterady my partner and I had a great day and a bad day.
The forecast was for 10-15 knots increasing to 20 in the afternoon, being not very experienced sailors we decided that we would go out in the morning and come back as the winds increased. We have been out with others who have more expirence and done it easy in those sort of conditions so we were confident we could cope mand did so easily. The 21' trailer sailor came off the trailer really easy Amazing wht an extra foot further down the ramp will do), we st out of the channel in light winds ran wing on wing successfully down the bay and had a ball.
That was the good part. The wind started to increase and we did the right thing and started to head back. Unfortunately we had a 2 hour beat back into the wind. The navigation was pretty much spot on, having checked the gps when we got back the track shows us doing the right stuff all the way home.
The bad stuff. The crew didnt stow her handbag properly and when we were busy beating back into the wind we didnt notice it had fallen onto the floor. This is the first time that we had sailed so fast back into 1/2 meter swells and tehy had pounded up into the drop keel well and the water came up through the slot. Thsi had happened before but never to the extent that when we got home I bucketed 15 2 gallon buckets out of the bottom.

Good stuff? learnt to put the trailer an bit further back, 4 1/2 hurs good sailing, good navigation, top speed of 7.11 knots and averaged 4.72 knots. My partner was happy to have the boat healing over a bit further before she eased the sheet and even pulled it in when she was comfortable again.

Bad stuff? bucketing out all the water because there is no seal in the well, and 1 dead mobil phone. They dont seem to like sea water for some reason.

Keep it black side down


pigslo 12-03-2006 04:29 PM

Your experience is the whole reason I sail.

sailingdog 12-03-2006 04:50 PM

Sounds like a pretty good day overall...might want to invest in a waterproof bag for your crew to store her stuff in... prevents repeated problems long-term, especially on a smaller trailer-sailer.

Mick Young 12-04-2006 03:20 AM

Thanks guys, my crew reckons that anyday we dont sink is a good day, though having to bucket out so much water i reckon it felt like we had.:) I did buy a large zip lock bag and a crate for the valuables, next time it will be another part of the learning curve that we climb.


morganmike 12-04-2006 07:50 AM

You might be able to save her cellphone by opening it up and cleaning the boards and terminals with alcohol and q-tips. Works about 50% of the time.

sailingdog 12-04-2006 08:12 AM


If it was salt water that got the phone...and it's been a couple of's dead. To fix electronics that have been soaked in salt water, you have to do it immediately, before the salt can cause corrosion. Also, salt water causes shorts in the electronics, as it is an electrolyte, and causes bad things to happen, especially when the battery gets wet.

Zanshin 12-04-2006 09:16 AM

Some electronics can be saved by repeated flushing with distilled water. Pure water does not conduct, but you will need to get rid of the salt and some electronics have board components that dissolve into water so several flushes are needed. Then drying and final cleaning with alcohol & Q-Tips. But you need to get all the salt out as soon as possible.

Unfortunately if you turn the device on while it is wet with conductive liquid you might have blown circuitry and no amount of cleaning is going to help.

TrueBlue 12-04-2006 09:29 AM

There is no hope for cell phones, once immersed in sea water. We've lost three this way in past years, but consider them as offerings to the sea gods - in exchange for safe journeys. So far, it's worked.

sailaway21 12-05-2006 02:24 AM

On my 21' Cal I have a "keel-board" that is approx. 6' long and sort of bottle shaped. It fits in the keel well, after the keel is lowered, and prevents virtually all water from entering the cockpit. Without dimensions I do not know how one would be constructed other than on the hard with the keel lowered. The wide part of the "bottle" fills the hole in the cockpit while the "neck" portion slides forward into the keel well that is under the cabin. Then there is a deck board that goes over the top to cover the well in the cockpit, but that, in and of itself, does nothing to keep water out. It just covers an 8" deep hole of the well.

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