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Ditto on bowlines as the preferred method....BUT...if that doesn't work for you...simply use one long line...fold in half and pass the loop end through the cringle and then the bitter ends through the loop...no knots required but keep an eye on chafe! (Lark's Head Knot...http://www.home.zonnet.nl/willeke_ig...not_table.html)
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The tree goes around the hole, wait no, the hole and the rabbit... crap that isn't right either. Let me see, the rabbit comes out of the - forget it! Granny knots for me. It takes a REAL sailor to tie a truly succesful granny knot!!
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No... Dad.. It takes a Real Sailor to tie a - Different - granny knot every time .... which I do very well each time I tie the fenders back on - haven't lost one yet. I'm basically a 'throw enough half-hitches at it and it will hold' kind of guy for the non-critical stuff. As for the genoa sheets I go with the 2 bowlines approach with different length loops to minimize the bunching up.
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The Genoa on my boat came with a long line passed through itself. This has seemed to work fine and has never snagged, but it must have been on there for years before i got the boat as it took a pair of pliers to get it off. After sailing with a buddy who uses 2 bowlines to hold his sheets on and seeing them snag on every tack, im kinda partial to my long line.
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Talking about bowlines and making them.

A few years back, got stuck on a fishing net, and came to a complete halt.

We managed to get the fisherman there and he came near us on a little boat. He said we shouldn't worry, as he was going to untangle us in a minute, just relax and let him do the job.

He aproached our boat from the bow and grabed one of the rails with one hand.

I swear that when he removed his hand, (1 or 2 seconds later), he had tied a bowline to my boat !!!!!!! I didn't even understand how he had done it!! I was wondering if it was magic trick!!

These guys spent all their life at sea, so tying knots is done like breathing....naturally!
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I like the larks head with one long line. Question is which direction would you pull the loop through in relation to the direction you furl and does it matter.
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The lark's head loop should be on top, making for a smoother action over shrouds and inner forestay (in my case) on a tack.
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Pig...I'm not sure it matters but on our last boat had the loop put through from the OUTSIDE wrap side of the roller.
Giu...I know that bowline move but can't do it myself! My father-in-law was a merchant captain and he could do one is about two seconds with ONE hand! Somewhere on the web there has to be an instruction set for that!!

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One handed Bowline around body:

(Learned this one when I did deep woods backpacking and mountain climbing).

The line is around you, bitter end in you right hand. Holding the bitter end, go over the line that extends out from you. If you look, you now have loop in front of your body. Still holding the line, go into that loop (from the bottom and up), twist the bitter end around the leading line, then pull through. One handed bowline. Very quick.

The trick on doing it without the line around you is basically the same, but you can "Twist the loop" versus making the loop if you need. There are probably other methods.

DOn't know if that makes sense?? Try it with a line sitting in your chair. Kinda one of those things you have to show someone.
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It's definitely possible to tie a bowline knot one-handed, as I've done it myself. As a Boy Scout I was taught a way such that if you were holding onto something with one hand, you could tie a bowline around your waist without having to let go. Probably not as quick as the fisherman's technique, but still pretty impressive.

Here's a page describing how it's done: http://www.climerware.com/bow.shtml
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