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i am picking up a boat in orange county califorina to bring it home to portland oregon in the spring. i am new to the game and so will not leave untill i have found a captain/friend to make the judgment calls... but is it true that you HAVE to go by way of Hawaii ??? looking at the charts it would seem so. if i have to stop there on the way, OH WELL... i can get over that. after getting nav gear and such what am i looking at for expences. and i know thats a loaded question. what i am talking about is the basics, not hotel stays and bar tabs. i am guessing what, three weeks each way give or take ? i am planing on doing this on a 30' catalina in good condition... and yes i do plan to take a shake down criuse befor heading for blue water

if i pay basic expences it would make it easyer finding this friend/captain

also, please recomend any good books on the subject,

so in searching for this other person to facilitate the voyage, where is this place to look ? here ? other sites ? does any one have any cautionary tales for me ? ..... GO....
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That is nuts! Don't buy an Epirb...we wouldn't want to put the coast guard to that expense!
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Sober ???

well yes, as a mater of fact i do intend to do it sober [sigh]. i put down the bottle 6 months ago [sniffle]. but i don't expect anyone else to. sailing is about fun
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are you intimating that i am taking my life in my hands
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Are you serious about sailing a 30ft Catalina off shore?
I think that is a rather light boat. Unless you have some information that I don't have. This is winter, the winds in Santa Barbara Channel alone are sometime 30 knots. You might save your money and time and have it trucked up. Just a thought. I've sailed Catalinas.
Not a strong boat for my money on this type of trip.
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Are you serious about sailing a 30ft Catalina off shore?
I think that is a rather light boat. Unless you have some information that I don't have. This is winter, the winds in Santa Barbara Channel alone are sometime 30 knots. You might save your money and time and have it trucked up. Just a thought. I've sailed Catalinas.
Not a strong boat for my money on this type of trip.
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well really i just want to get it to portland and was told the off shore current would keep me running in place all season... and no i am not planning on leaving until good weather. are you saying a Catalina is just a harbor boat or do you question the length ??? or both... the reading i had done on Catalinas led me to believe that they had a good thick hull... please explain
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Catalinas are fantastic boats. People have sailed around the world in boats 12' and less.

That doesn't mean your new 30' Catalina is any good for a first trip to Hawaii and back though. If you want to pay two expierenced delivery captians about $6000, they will get it to Portland without blinking. That doesn't mean that you can pay one $3000 to come along with you because if they are worth $3000, they won't be able to sleep with you at the helm. If you want to prepare yourself for this trip and find someone else to come along for cheap, than the 30' Catalina doesn't look that great.

This Pacific Seacraft 31' weighs 8 tons and has 3 tons ballast. It's a lot heavier, triple the price of a Catalina, and triple the boat, but even that would be a hard drive for someone's first trip.

I hope you go for it though. Once you make it out alive, it'd be quite an adventure to have behind you. But then sailing in Portland wouldn't seem so fun. If you want a safer adventure, try one of these.

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You Don't Say Anything About The Age Of The Boat You Are Looking At, Nor The Condition Of The Rigging. The Hull On A Catalina Is Not The Problem, Although If You Hit A 50 Gallon Drum In The Dark You Could Be In A Lot Of Trouble, But I Think That Is True With Most Any Boat At 30 Ft. And This Question, I Couldn't Tell If You Were Kidding About Hawaii. I Hate To Assume Anything On These Posts.
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A Pacific Seacraft is a much better boat to do all of this on.
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Congrats Gforce. I traded a bottle for a boat a couple of years ago and not one regret there. Actually I found that I like sailing even more stone cold than I used to tipsy! Sail your boat conservatively (always a good idea anyhow). Make sure the rig is sound and hatches, boards etc. fit well and have backup pumps onboard. Plan carefully, expect the worst and then have a fantastic and basically uneventful trip!
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this is the add below. the rigging i don't know about yet, but in all it looks like a very well cared for boat... so ???? anybody ???


30' Catalina Yachts Sloop

* Year: 1978


Dimensions
LOA: 30' LWL: 25' Beam: 10'10"
Displacement: 10,200 Draft: 5'5"

Engines
Engine(s): Volvo Engine Model: 2 Cylinder Cruising Speed: 6.5 knots
Max Speed: 7.5knots

Tankage
Fuel: 20 gallons Water: 40 gallons Holding: 20 gallons



Accommodations
This is a standard Catalina 30 layout. Functional and efficient.
A large two-person v-berth forward, adjacent to hanging locker, drawers and shelves, convenient to the head. Amidships are two large settees. One converts to a double berth when the dinette is folded to the bulkhead. The quarter berth also sleeps two. All cushions in good condition.

* Two large hatches for maximum ventilation
* Reading lights strategically placed
* Blue snap-up carpeting


Galley
Efficient "U" shaped galley.

* Ice Box
* Stove, 3 burner Galley Maid, alcohol
* Oven/broiler
* Deep double sinks, stainless steel
* Pressure water plus
* Hand-pump fresh water
* Manual Head
* Hand-hold shower
* Holding tank
* Jabsco Macerator


Electronics

* Compass (new 2005)
* Knotmeter
* Depthsounder
* VHF Marine radio
* Manual Whale Gusher bilge pump
* Automatic Bilge pump


On Deck
Bottom done in 2004 and new bottom paint applied. Small paint blisters taken care of at that time.

* Tiller steering
* Split backstay
* Mainsail with cover, all sails in good condition
* Roller Furling jib,
* Genoa
* Danforth Anchors (2)
* Ample chain and rode
* Full cockpit cushions
* Life Jackets
* Boat Hook
* Stern Ladder


Engine

* Volvo 2 Cylinder Diesel (rebuilt 2004)
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