Need a good Wine

[poopdeckpappy]

Originally Posted by sanctuarysam

avoid the mass produced california wines (kendall jackson comes to mind

Are you saying all California wines are mass produced or just Kendell Jackson is mass produced ??

I'm not into drinking, so I don't know, only wine I have bought was that Marlot, but it wasn't KJ, it was something like Matanezs (?) Creek

[Giulietta]

Sam,

Weird way of putting it, but none the less, very valid.

Cockeyedbob,

finding good wine (FOR YOU), is almost like finding a woman, they all are good for you know what, (some exeptions) but only a few will make you fall in love.... if I may use this analogy.

Finding the right (good) wine for you is a trial and error. You have to go thru several bottles and taste and enjoy, and the more you drink the more your personal "wine list" will grow.

Trial and error, my friend. Buy, open drink. You like, then it is good, you don't like it, then it's no good. That simple.

Of course the pivot point between good or bad can be sparse in a collective environment of wine tasters.

So, unless you have gone thru a lot of bottles were you can provide your input your opinion, if you have no references hear what they say, use their experience.

And by the way, over here we would never ask the guy at the store, because we have very very few wine stores. Wine is so abundant you buy it at the corner supermarket. Even gas stations.

Can you imagine asking a 19 year old kid mopping the floor near the wine section, how this wine tatses?? He would say something like: 15 minutes of cognitive thoughts, then pass out!!! Good man good!!!

Remeber you like it??? its good, just like women!!

[cockeyedbob]

Gentlemen, I thank you for your sage advice. The profusion of local wineries must play havoc with the cork trees as most bottles appear to be stoppered with some sort of plastic product. Trial and error, I new there was a secret!

[sanctuarysam]

Originally Posted by poopdeckpappy

Are you saying all California wines are mass produced or just Kendell Jackson is mass produced ??

I'm not into drinking, so I don't know, only wine I have bought was that Marlot, but it wasn't KJ, it was something like Matanezs (?) Creek

actually Matanzas Creek is a wonderful winery...KJ was one once, but with notoriety and demand, standards fell...if you chose this wine as a gift, you chose wisely grasshopper

[sanctuarysam]

Originally Posted by Giulietta

Sam,

Weird way of putting it, but none the less, very valid.

Cockeyedbob,

finding good wine (FOR YOU), is almost like finding a woman, they all are good for you know what, (some exeptions) but only a few will make you fall in love.... if I may use this analogy.

Finding the right (good) wine for you is a trial and error. You have to go thru several bottles and taste and enjoy, and the more you drink the more your personal "wine list" will grow.

Trial and error, my friend. Buy, open drink. You like, then it is good, you don't like it, then it's no good. That simple.

Of course the pivot point between good or bad can be sparse in a collective environment of wine tasters.

So, unless you have gone thru a lot of bottles were you can provide your input your opinion, if you have no references hear what they say, use their experience.

And by the way, over here we would never ask the guy at the store, because we have very very few wine stores. Wine is so abundant you buy it at the corner supermarket. Even gas stations.

Can you imagine asking a 19 year old kid mopping the floor near the wine section, how this wine tatses?? He would say something like: 15 minutes of cognitive thoughts, then pass out!!! Good man good!!!

Remeber you like it??? its good, just like women!!

hey giu,
i live for weird..
i guess it is much like asking a waitress about a certain dish..if she doesn't know how it is prepared or how it tastes, it tells me much about how the operation is run. same for wine merchants, if i ask how wine A compares to wine B that i'm familiar with, and i get the blank 'west marine stare'..poof..i'm outa there.
i failed to add, when you find a wine you like, save the cork, it tells you who made the wine,(of course w/ the advent of screw tops this becomes problematic)..in which case, put pen to paper, and write down what you like.
for the record, w/ the diminishing cork supply, screw tops will become more accepted, and are less difficult than some composite corks (now where is that damn corkscrew).
wine, women and song...
a loaf of bread, a jug of wine and thou...
something about good wine and women...

[T34C]

Wow, I just re-read this whole thread start to finish!!! Very funny. I always like recommendations of good wines wo have been taking notes.
G- I have cut and pasted ALL of your recommendations and am making it my mission to boost sales from your "humble country". (Trying to help with that sponsorship you're after!)

You should all stop trying to sort out good from bad, as I got a bottle of wine as a Christmas gift that was from Chicago! (Home brew no less!)

[Giulietta]

T, I changed my mind.. I like you now!!

You have won 150 good credits!! You're at minus 230 now!!!!!

Wise thing to do. Now I'm expecting some feedback from you, after you drink some.

[T34C]

G- I'll be happy to provide the feedback. (That shouldn't be a surprise!) Maybe I can at least work my way back into positive credits!!!

By the way, I'm saving that Chicago wine so I can re-gift it to you next year!! (Did I mention it is White Zin.!!!!!)

[Giulietta]

T, please keep the chicago wine, I already cleaned my stainless stell fixtures!!

[T34C]

I'm not sure it would have helped your stainless anyway. May work on your battery terminals though.