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I'm not sure of the asking price, but my boat did not have any of the normal cracking issues an I considered it a pretty good deal when purchased. There is a price comparison spreadsheet available on the tca34.org website that may be of some help.

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Looked at Tartan 34 C

Well, I just got back from looking at the 34C. The boat has some nice qualities, the layout was good and it appears to have some nice extra equipment including a refigerator. The problem is the maintenance on the boat has been lacking for several years. There is some leakage around the chain plates and there was definetly a difference in sounds on parts of the deck, especially where the surveyor indicated there are high moisture readings.

The price of the boat is around 20k and I don't think the current owner is going to be too negotiable on that...So the question is:" do I have the energy, money and time to spend to get the boat back into shape?" Secondly how much of the deck may have to be replaced? I spoke to a friend who went with me, his delamination of a relatively small part of the deck cost him around 5k to fix. If the core isn't mush, I suppose the epoxy might work, but if it is...whew what a mess.

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Jim,
I think they are great boats and I spent several years looking for mine. But gee, things are expensive out your way. I looked at one 34C and got an estimate in the Chesapeake of 8,000 to 10,000 to re-core the entire deck and cockpit. And 20,000 seems to be a lot for that boat compared to what I saw and then paid for mine when I was looking two years ago. If the 34C is the boat you want maybe looking some more is worthwhile. I understand boats aren’t selling very well right now so maybe you have time to look some more and that one will still be available later.
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The worst part about a delamination issue, is that it will rarely come within the best estimate. Too often, when fixing that type of problem, others rear their ugly heads. Any boat with those kinds of issues should be looked at with a wary eye.

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If the deck has some water intrusion and has started to delaminate, then you're really got to think of the worst, rather than best case scenario. $20K sounds like an awful lot of money for a boat with potentially serious deck issues. If the owner isn't willing to negotiate regarding the costs of the repair, then bail on this boat... plenty of others out there.

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Great boat and very able and capable of trans ocean sailing. They balance well and mine will sail herself without a windvane system but I added one that Dr. David Parker built for my boat. Mine is a 1972 and had very few problems but some things I have seen in mine and other examples of the Tartan 34C

Look at the forward corners of the cabin, the deck cracks in most of the boats, adjust price

Same in the forward corners of the cockpit.

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Centerboard droops, check pin, easy repair but adjust price

Wet core in deck at fittings.

Engine? Condition and type if Atomic Four and you want to replace it the space for a larger propeller is limited so you need a three blade to use the power of a diesel changing that is somewhat difficult because the shaft is close to the hull so no room for a larger two blade propeller

Because of the boats age has the standing rigging been replaced?

They were standard with a tiller, if wheel, check installation and how did they handle emergency tiller. How did they rig the throttle and shift. Did the take out the old engine controls and glass the hole in the cockpit. In my boat they cut the rudder shaft below the cockpit deck. If I rig the emergency tiller on my Tartan I have a hole in the cockpit for water to get below.

The main sheet was in the cockpit, where is it now. If mid boom you need to have a larger boom then standard.

Lower bearing for rudder is difficult to fix, does the rudder feel loose at the bottom of the skeg.

Conditions of winches? They are old and parts may be a problem.

Spreader base brackets?

If Atomic Four check exhaust, its black iron with a copper muffler. Pipe rusts out at the manifold under the heat shield.

Cabin ports need rebuilding at some point. Hard to get the stainless screws out of the frames. Check for damage to the wood around the ports.

Check the chainplate bulkheads for rot. Somewhat common problem.

Just some quick thoughts and check everything else that you look at in an older boat.
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I am buying a Tartan 34 c but it doesn't have the extension for the centerboar, is ti expensive to add?
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