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Prior to the boat capsizing, 'the captain had been steering through the storm for three or four hours,' Klinges said. 'He went down below to take a rest and took off all his gear. Once we were in the water, the wind just took it out of him.'
Hmmm.... Sounds like mainly human error. Sailing downwind in a catamaran with 50 knots of wind and 45' breaking seas? Why not heave-to and wait the storm out?
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Better yet...ask why anyone would consider crossing the north atlantic in February.
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Many cats won't heave to all that well. Why didn't he have a drogue or sea anchor? Also, you do have to question his timing of his trip...as Cam points out... Crossing the North Atlantic in February is less than wise.
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Hmmm.... Sounds like mainly human error. Sailing downwind in a catamaran with 50 knots of wind and 45' breaking seas? Why not heave-to and wait the storm out?
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That's a pretty gratuitous comment, doubtless spoken from the comfort of your computer desk. There may be some members who are expert in the heavy weather handling of multihulls, but I'm know I'm not one of them and given your "I Just Bought My First Boat" post, I bet you aren't either.
Your comment makes me feel sick.

For other posters benefit, the article makes clear the original plan was not a North Atlantic crossing......

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We weren't there. We can't say.

But the reroute to Annapolis sounds arbitrary and ill-informed, seeing as the crew understood that it was a bad idea. A glance at a North Atlantic Pilot would confirm that mid-February is not great sailing weather north of the Tropic of Cancer.
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Sfool...right...the article makes plain that the original destination was the Caribe but a phone call instructed them to take it to Annapolis. My question is why the captain didn't turn around and walk off the boat. The crew guy was along for the experience but the captain should have said no.
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Kacper,
That's a pretty gratuitous comment, doubtless spoken from the comfort of your computer desk. There may be some members who are expert in the heavy weather handling of multihulls, but I'm know I'm not one of them and given your "I Just Bought My First Boat" post, I bet you aren't either.
Your comment makes me feel sick.

For other posters benefit, the article makes clear the original plan was not a North Atlantic crossing......

You know if you were to read anything at all on cats I doubt you would find anyone who would recommend running in those conditions. Not that I know this from experience, the only cat I've ever sailed was a Hobie, but it would seem logical that it wasn't a sensible thing to do. Now I could, in my ignorance, ask the same question about heaving to. Not to be accusative but merely wishing to understand. Who know's ? Someone with a wealth of multi hull experience could well inform us that cats hate to heave to and running is the way to go.

This is, after all, a discussion group not judge and jury. Supposition is all part of discussion.
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Sfool...right...the article makes plain that the original destination was the Caribe but a phone call instructed them to take it to Annapolis. My question is why the captain didn't turn around and walk off the boat. The crew guy was along for the experience but the captain should have said no.
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Kretschmer has an interesting story in Flirting with Mermaids about accepting an assignment to deliver a boat from Newport to Sweden in February.The bottomline was he felt he was a professional being paid enough to take the job - I well remember the perils he described of the voyage, but don't recall whether he second-guessed himself on the flight home....
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