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Thank you all for your great comments -- that is what is so great about this board! Individuals such as yourselves take the time to help out sailor wannabees... I'm going to pick up the the cruising guide tomorrow. Thanks so much for the sites --- only one month to go!.
While over on the cruising forum, you have Dogsailors, with these two responses:
dogsailors said:
Both dogs have done extensive coastal cruises as well as hiked the appalachain trail and canoed down several rivers once even in the atlantic. My dogs are cared for far better than most and I will not feel sorry for a dog who eats and sleeps all day. I was not asking for opinions but simply wanted to know if anyone has cruised with these near genuis dogs. Obviously no one on this site is acctually out cruising so I will have to see for my self. Good luck arm chair sailors have fun talking sh*t while Im out sailing.
excuse me for asking if anyone OWNS AND CRUISES with bull dogs. was never interested in your opinions since you DO NOT CRUISE with bull dogs. Real friendly site I feel so welcome.
Both people were asking questions, and getting good, critical, and useful feedback IMHO-yet their responses are totally different. It seems that some of the newbies on sailnet want to only have their beliefs and ideas justified, rather than a wholehearted, honest, if somewhat humorous, discussion of the topic.
Do you think newbies, like Dogsailors and Horseatingweeds, are being too sensitive, or do they need to take chill pill and learn to deal?
Also, if you were out on the water...which would you want to be sailing near? If you had to crew for one...who would you rather crew for? If you had to have one as crew in an emergency, who would you want on your boat?
Did anyone read Desparate Voyage? Enroute from Panama to Austrailia, the author/sole oceanic voyager, was given pigs and chickens from south pacific islanders.
He nurtured them until prepping for consumption - one at a time. No refrigeration onboard, so he ate well for spurts at a time. When his food ran out, his wise pet rat which lived in the bilges - jumped ship before becoming the next meal.
Guess if I was that rodent, I'd rather drown than become rat sushi too.
Sailingdog
First i have to build the boat (15ft sharpie, wish me luck), then... Lake of the Ozarks is ******** hell, too close to St Looney (and Jefferson City, the state capital). It's also narrow and the wind is bloked by many tall bluffs. Stockton lake is supposed to be the best 'non-Great' lake for sailing in the midwest. (of course i live closer to Ozark Oh well, the Admiral put up with CT for years, i can find a way here, certainly not lacking for wind.
SD,
Read the book - he lost everything in a hurricane, including his Primus and matches. Things became so desparate, he resorted to eating seabirds raw - and alive, which were caught with a makeshift harpoon.
UGH... I would do it if I had too, but the thought of eating a raw rat is really disgusting... raw seabirds isn't as bad...but I would definitely kill them first.
John
Thanks, but I live right near the center of MO (~1 hr from Ozark) which makes both those a bit of a drive. Have a friend who lives in St Looney who just started racing on Carlyle, have to see... Closer to home are Truman, Stockton and Pomme de Terre (no, really, "potato lake" - gotta love it ). midwestsailing.com is a great resource, just need to build the boat (two actually, I'm pretty sure the first will sink), buy a bigger hickup truck, and .... hey that's all! (all? )
Ahhhh......well, I have to admit, one of the longest seeming drives I ever made was from just south of St Louis to Tulsa. Only six hours but I thought I'd never get out of Missouri.
tdw, could you elaborate on what it was like with the cat aboard? I have a young one that I've had for a few months. While I won't be going anywhere out of the Chesapeake anytime soon, in a couple of years we will be doing some extensive cruising. I have already planned to keep my eyes on her behavior while living aboard and the bay trips I'll be taking with her. If you prefer, you can PM your experience with it to me.
The cat was pretty cool overall, once she got over the sea sickness which for her was only ever the first hour or so at sea. Harder for the dog cos when the cat was out of sorts she always used to go to the dog for comfort. Freaked the dog out completely. Cat also had the rather unsettling habit of leaping out on deck in heavy weather then bitching about the wet fur. Go figure. I've PMed you the unexpurgated version.
Regards
RIGHT ON...I was working on the air leaks..in my fuel system.. I'm down to my last leak..believe an 0 ring in fuel line fitting between Racor and fuel feed pump....well anyway..went over to resident diesel mechanic's shop in marina to buy some 5/16" fuel line...He had a news clipping hanging...I think dated 1999 it said
"From the Rich...Be Optimistic.."
I thouht to myself what a great quote..."If you want to travel first class..Be optimistic....."Tomorrow that Volvo MD3B..will be purring like a kitten.
Range is variable. Depends on the age and sex of the intended projectile. Apparently certain breeds of dog work better than Wombats due to their smooth coats and bullet heads.
But wombats are closer to being round... and make much better projectiles. After all, we're trying to strike fear into their hearts... and a wombat is just so much more intimidating...
I would like to crew for the dogs - they sound like very able and experienced seafolk, who are also capable of hiking and canoeing - indeed they are far more well-rounded than I could ever hope to be. Also I find that dogs tend to have a very good grasp on life's priorities...if they can't eat it, sleep on it, or procreate with it, it's obviously not worth worrying about....
( You're welcome )
But wombats are closer to being round... and make much better projectiles. After all, we're trying to strike fear into their hearts... and a wombat is just so much more intimidating...
Her post on Sailing Anarchy (Cruising Anarchy forum) about this Valiant Esprit 37:
"Hey I am seriously considering a valiant esprit 37. Does anyone have any experience? Real info I dont want to here [sic] about blisters. the one I have a contract on has never had a blister problem."
So, don't confuse her with talk about blisters because the one she is looking at has never had any. Well, these are 25-30 year old boats from what I have seen on Yachtworld. Anyone care to join a pool on the chances of her boat getting a case of the pox in the next 3-5 years?
Same attitude as with the dogs -- just tell her what she wants to hear.
A rather demanding young lady, and with very poor hearing.
When cruising, sometime I do a dish that my mother taught me. Its called (and I am translating from Australian) "drunk wombat".
Now, drunk wombat is easy to do on a boat.
1 wombat remove skin if you don't like (I remove some and leave some for taste)
1 wombat soup (the dry powder ones, you know... just add water)
1 onion cut in small pieces.
1 beer or 2 depends on wombat size.
dump all in a casserole and let boil until meat is done.
When done, eat. Attention, stains are hard to remove from teak!
Be careful, temptation to drink beer might increase required beer bottle quantity!!
Only wombats???? I see more deranged than wombats...
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