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So Reid is sailing around the world for nearly three years in a state-registered boat???

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Free...yes you can document a boat if you are a US citizen. The boat has NOT been documented either as the "Anne" or in its' previous incarnation as Tantra since it was built in NC.
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Dawg...we don't know if it is registered anywhere...but we DO know it isn't documented. Actually...if you're not pulling in anywhere...why document? Especially with a home built boat...initial documentation might not be a trivial exercise.
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LOL... given some of the other facts that have come out about Reid, it wouldn't surprise me if he failed to register or document his boat.
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Dawg...we don't know if it is registered anywhere...but we DO know it isn't documented. Actually...if you're not pulling in anywhere...why document? Especially with a home built boat...initial documentation might not be a trivial exercise.
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Kacper and 'Dodger

Sorry to say this, but this guy set himself up by being a publicity hound, similar to 'David the Tin-Foil Sailor'. A bad idea is a bad idea, regardless of how it may 'challenge the human spirit' or other such claptrap. Spare me the drivel, there's lots of guys just sailing around the world with out the 'made-for-the-internet' aspect. Taking a complete noob out for 1000 days or trying to sail around the world in a tin can is just dumb, regardless of how many wide-eyed dreamers find it 'romantic'.

(oooh, I see someone's in a bad mood today....)
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Just cause your in a bad mood doesn't make the post any less true...might have affected the wording a bit...but you were nicer about it that I probably would have been, even in a good mood.
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Sorry to say this, but this guy set himself up by being a publicity hound, similar to 'David the Tin-Foil Sailor'. A bad idea is a bad idea, regardless of how it may 'challenge the human spirit' or other such claptrap. Spare me the drivel, there's lots of guys just sailing around the world with out the 'made-for-the-internet' aspect. Taking a complete noob out for 1000 days or trying to sail around the world in a tin can is just dumb, regardless of how many wide-eyed dreamers find it 'romantic'.

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Dawg...we don't know if it is registered anywhere...but we DO know it isn't documented. Actually...if you're not pulling in anywhere...why document? Especially with a home built boat...initial documentation might not be a trivial exercise.

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I'm not sure about the documentation or lack thereof. Certainly she is not a US registered ship but while I can't be bothered wading through the chaff that is the SA thread on this, from memory the Anne (aka Tantric Schooner) was registered somewhere in the Carribean or at least carries a Carribean home port on her stern. (gee that must weight her down.... )

Have to say through gritted teeth, not liking to be completely arse about face, that RS made damn good time from Rottnest to south of Cape Leuwin. I was expecting that the prevailing winds in that part of the world would have made it pretty difficult for him to make his southing. I guess he picked up a nice northerly.

There have been a couple of comments on SA as to whether he is capable of making it around Cape Horn and RS himself in one of those audio files talks about how he is keen to get into lower and warmer lattitudes. What surprises me about those comments is that he still has to get across the Great Australian Bight and below Tasmania. That's a pretty nasty area in itself. ask Tony Bullimore. If he can make it through there then, hey, all bets are off, he can make it anywhere. (hmm I can feel a song coming on )

RS is now going to be alone on that boat for the next two and a bit years. Jon Sanders , the guy who was part of the 'rescue' mission , did a triple circumnavigation non stop that lasted just under two years so we know it can be done. The questions in RS's case is can the boat and it's equipment hold up and is RS capable of surviving the mental challenge or will he simple go stark raving mad. Let's face it, there are not that many people who can live by themselves and have no communication with the outside world other than the odd radio link for over two years. Sanders did it in an S & S 39 especially fitted out for the voyage and not quite the same equipment as the Cammemboat.
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It could be one of the female Hovians fans - is currently desperately awaiting approval to be airlifted in as a replacement....hence Reid could be the sponsor of the top two - women longest at sea without being in sight of land....


If Oprah picks up the story....anything from here on in could be possible...after all there are women that love the "dating a prison inmate (scott peterson for example)...

But none the less - kinda like as surmised on SA - kinda not interesting enough now with just Reid- considering all things...Kinda like watching Knight Rider (Comeback II) and all it has is a car driving around...and supporting cast...(So what did you think of the show Denby?)
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TDW...yes. Despite the sleaziness of the captain...he does seem to be fairly experienced and competent (excepting that minor error with the freighter!) and does not seem to be bothered much about anything that happens at sea. I believe the mission will fail either because the boat stuff will just keep breaking to the point that it is impossible to go on...or Reid will lose it mentally. I do not think he can do it alone for more than two years...but the hull seems to be able to take a pretty good beating. I'll go on record and say I don't expect this will last another 6 months unless he just stops sailing and lies ahull somewhere in the tropics.
That is an interesting side note about Sanders...quite an achievement! And you are right...Reid will be tested a lot sooner than Cape Horn!

EDIT...further on the registry. Several pictures of Anne show Antigua/BWI as home port...but the Coast Guard report of the collision says Anne of New York. Who knows...I don't recall any British Ensigns flying...but an offshore LLC and registration would be one way of protecting her from "creditors" like the government/child support services!

EditEdit...no matter that Soanya's gone...Reid still has plenty of company on board. Here's todays post:
All's well on the good ship Anne. Soanya's spirit is still on board, in our bed or perched on the gimbaled pilot house bunk watching out the windows. Things she had to leave behind are everywhere. Even before she left through out the voyage the spirits of great sailors like Sir Peter Blake were looking over my shoulders saying things like," Humph, Reid, you can do better. You have to be stronger than that to sail a boat like this by yourself". Captain Cook dissed me. Sir Chichester said,"Reid, lets have a sip of gin. Maybe things will go better." I needed more support and who should come out of deep retirement wondering where his sword and arrows were, but Ulysses.He was feeling a little testy and said," Reid, I am here, have no fear. This is The New Voyage of Ulysses." Then I put on The Best of The Doors, Break On Through To The Otherside and turned it up real loud. Then I got to work
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Sorry to say this, but this guy set himself up by being a publicity hound, similar to 'David the Tin-Foil Sailor'. A bad idea is a bad idea, regardless of how it may 'challenge the human spirit' or other such claptrap. Spare me the drivel, there's lots of guys just sailing around the world with out the 'made-for-the-internet' aspect. Taking a complete noob out for 1000 days or trying to sail around the world in a tin can is just dumb, regardless of how many wide-eyed dreamers find it 'romantic'.

(oooh, I see someone's in a bad mood today....)
Lovely to see another grumpy old curmudgeon in residence. Takes the heat of me. So no need to apologise for being in a bad mood, every cloud and all that, you've made me a happy widdle wombat. Now doesn't that cheer you up immensely ?

Not sure about saying nice things about a man of the cloth but then again I'm not an alter boy so I might be safe.

BTW, agree totally with your basic sentiments but then again if it was your boat and your dream and you could get a bunch of brain dead morons to pay the bills ??? (I'm talking RS here, at least , the Cammemboat is vaguely seaworthy and he has experience.) I know he is a complete dick and all that
but you have to admire his cheek.

ps - loved Christopher Lloyds character in Taxi, great series.

pps - Cam, maybe he is already stark raving mad.
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