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Is it that cold on the Ocean in May? We are not taking the North route to the Azores but a more southerly one.

CAptain said shoul be between 12 - 18 Celsius ( I dont know what that is in Fahrenheit, but it is barable, 18 is pretty high and almost enough to take your shirt off in the sun.

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Think about being on watch at 0400. Nothing worse than being alone in the cockpit in the early morning and freezing your tits off. Don't know how others feel but for me it always seem coldest just before dawn.
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Kacper in my opion you made the correct choice. That Bayfield was kinda pricey, the ones here in the Great Lakes are generaly all in very good condition due to fresh water and a short season. You could buy one here and have it trucked west for significantly less money.

I looked at one yesterday and I would have some concerns regarding the bow sprint/head stay arrangement. Even though they are a traditional design I am not so sure they were ever meant to be a blue water cruiser.

When you get back in the market I would suggest a look at a Niagara 35 built by Hinterheoller. This one definately was desgined by a well know naval architect as a blue water vessel. Construction and the original interior were designed for it. Still available in great shape for noticibly less than 100K cnd.

They also have a traditional look to them, one that I prefer.

Have a safe fun trip.
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Is it that cold on the Ocean in May? We are not taking the North route to the Azores but a more southerly one.

CAptain said shoul be between 12 - 18 Celsius ( I dont know what that is in Fahrenheit, but it is barable, 18 is pretty high and almost enough to take your shirt off in the sun.

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If it's 12 and blowing 35 knots and the sea temp is 9 C, the combined soak factor/wind chill will be like standing in 3 C rain. Get a proper offshore suit for deck work. If you wear it one day out of 14, you'll appreciate it, particularly if you have to sleep in it in a 10 C cabin with a broken heater. My experience of sailing even the Irish Sea in May (or the even colder Lake Ontario, which I will be doing tomorrow) is that once you get cold, it's extremely difficult to get warmed up again.

My friends down south who are currently delivering from the Caribbean to the Eastern U.S. coast say that it's not uncommon to change clothes three times a day to deal with the differing and wind-driven conditions, and that the odd sight of shorts, Tevas, an offshore jacket, gloves and a watch cap at the wheel is not at all uncommon, as the sub-tropical sun heats the legs even as the wind and spray tear away heat from the upper body. Being a cyclist, I can understand this: The air temp by the lake is about 8 C at the moment, which means I can wear shorts, a sweater and a windbreaker *as long as I keep moving* and can be very comfortable and not overheated.
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When you get back in the market I would suggest a look at a Niagara 35 built by Hinterheoller.
A second vote for the Niagara 35. It's about as small as you'd want for offshore, but it's a proven design like the Pacific Seacraft 34 and 37, which are far more expensive.

Step aboard one and you'll notice right away the bulkhead at the foot of the companionway and the walk-through head. Take it out in nine foot waves and the logic of this will be made evident. Very nice boats for couples.
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I think that you made the right call. With the inflated price you would expect to have to do nothing to that boat. With all the issues you discussed here...getting out was probably the right decision. Good luck on your voyage.
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The Southern Crosses are also good bluewater choices. Donna Lange has one.
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Hey guys,

Yup, I got all the weather gear I need bought it all this winter when I sailed here on the Gulf Islands and tested it severely. Got wool long under wear and everything.

Found out what AFOC meant now. I think I accidentally forgot about that

Anyway, not that i have time to shop right now as I leave for New York in a few days. but what do you guys thing of a Tayana 37 and the Cape Dory boats?

There are a couple beautiful Tayana 37(or is it 38?) here right now for sale for the SAME money that I was paying for that Bayfield,... wow, glad I got out of it. If they are on the market when I come back I will take a look.

Yup Niagara 35. Actually, our broker called us the day we got out of our deal and wanted to show us a Niagara 35 that just came on the market. Here it is:

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