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That seriously sucks... what yard in upstate NY were you in? We've hopped through a number over the past couple of weeks working our way up the Hudson... I'd hate to find out we were 500 feet from each other!
Nahhh you'd notice KAC...he's the one with the BIG HEAD!!!!
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Wow.

Just wow.

I would've spun on my heel the moment I saw the boat gutted on the hard. If I like that sort of work, I have enough of it here. About the only pre-casting-off work I would expect free crew to do is to help stow and tie down stuff, and to listen to me blather on about ship's systems, where the seacocks are, where the wood plugs are, which way the fuel cocks and head cocks pointed, how to keep the log, and a long list of safety instructions. I would also be interested in confirming that they weren't misrepresenting themselves via pop quizzes on navigation and engine fixing (assuming they claimed to know such arcana).

Crew should be presented with a 95% functional boat, in my opinion, with only stowage and stuff you discover wrong in the process of stowage to keep you from leaving. Oh, and it's OK to wait for the right weather window, but you've got to feed the crew and call the expense the luck of the draw.

You were severely taken advantage of. Please post Captain ********'s real name, boat name and type and home port in order that this experience doesn't sour another young and willing crew unnecessarily.

I'm not kidding. I'm trying to do Atlantic crewing this summer, and if I waste a plane ticket on this piss streak, I'll be most displeased. PM me privately if you wish. Thanks, and you have my regrets.
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I would say that posting the captain's name and the name of the boat would just be fair warning to anyone looking to crew.

If that is how he treats the people who came expecting to crew for a trans-Atlantic passage...particularly if he did not at least offer to re-imburse your travel expenses. The amount of labor you provided is worth at least that much.

This guy is a complete idiot... at best... and it is probably very lucky that you're not stuck in the middle of the ocean with this guy, since he sounds like he's going for a Darwin Award.

I'd agree with what Valiente said about the 95% functional boat, and the fact that you're there to crew, not to do boat maintenance.

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That's a disappointment and a lucky escape - one of the risks involved. Pity you didn't have a baseball cap to trade you could have motored over on a Hylas.
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The skippers name wasn't "Ryan" was it? Seems to me he's shown questionable judgment here before.
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Get your own boat, even if it's a very tiny one. Go sail it. Screw your wife on the deck. Get all liquored up and fall asleep in the cockpit.
Okay, i'm only gonna tell you once...QUIT SPYING ON ME!
K, glad your alive to tell the tale "dead men tell no tales" I just had a similar experience, best $1100. I ever spent...so to speak

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K. you have more patience than me. I would have freaked the first day I got there seeing the boat on the hard. What a complete idiot this captain is, what was he thinking? Do you have any pictures for us??
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I agree with CD... I couldn't believe what I was reading after the "gutted-on-the-hard" bit. Would have bailed right away. Oh well. Another expensive 'life lesson'.

Glas your home safe.

ps. Is this the guy that talked you out of the Bayfield because of the bowsprit? Would his comments be suspect now? Is the Bayfield still available?

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Bob's bettin' he's bitchin' 'bout how y'all walked off the job, leavin' him in a lurch after all yer screwin 'bout and messin' up his pride and joy and all, and now he's gotta do all the work over again and find another crew, and he's never gonna ask y'all ta go anywhere with him ever again, and is thinkin' 'bout seein' one lawyer to sue fer damages and anuther'n cause one of y'all mighta been a pokin' his honey 'stead of workin' ...

Some folks just kinda like that.

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