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Just my .02 worth.
It may take a while to get fully implimented but DSC radio should help this situation, both for the CG and concerned boaters.
(Taken from West Marine site)

The importance of Digital Selective Calling
This year the Coast Guard is scheduled to complete the upgrade of their coastal Search and Rescue capabilities, known as Rescue 21. In the next few years, Rescue 21 will eliminate gaps in VHF coverage over the entire coastal US, allow accurate, precise tracking of the location of mayday signals within 20 miles of the coast, and allow enhanced digital recording and playback of distress calls.

All fixed VHF radios now are required to include DSC capability. If your DSC-equipped radio is interfaced with a GPS receiver it will be able to transmit crucial vessel information, your position and, with some higher-end radios, the nature of your distress call (undesignated, fire, flooding, collision, grounding, capsize, sinking, adrift, abandoning, piracy, MOB). In an emergency, one push of a button will make your DSC radio send an automated digital distress alertólike a VHF-frequency EPIRBócontaining your position and Maritime Mobile Service Identity (MMSI) number to rescue facilities and other DSC-equipped vessels. We think that these automated distress capabilities are the single best reason to consider replacement of your non-DSC radio, even if it is still working like new.

Hope this helps,

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Aren't you all being a little anal-retentive about the USCG?

1. They draw from the same pool of young talent as everyone else.
2. I think they do their jobs pretty well. The job seems to be law enforcement plus whatever else they have time and resources for.
3. If we all use proper radiotelephone procedure, we can ultimately get the word accurately. Where is it written that we are all entitled to perfectly clear reception from the USCG (or anyone else) on first transmission?
4. There are no guarantees of anything at sea. You'd better be prepared. If someone shows up to help, that's great, but even the USCG can't make a promise to do so every time.

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I think that since the S/V Morning Dew (google it I can't post a link yet) the USCG has done a great job (as they always have)

Between calls the guys at the fire station play basketball and I have never seen them miss a call.

BTW I am a pilot and all my exchanges with USCG while circleing over sailors in trouble comming too and from the Bahamas have been professional and concise.

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Goodnews- I know this thread is fairly long and has had some twists and turns, but as the OP my intent was not to criticize the CG but to suggest a minor change in the way emergencies(pans, maydays) are broadcast so that boaters in the immediate vicinity may respond quicker and hopefully save some lives(see original post). I would like to address each of your four points regarding the thread if I may.

1. They draw from the same pool of young talent as everyone else.

I'm sure they do, but someone responsible for radio communications during an emergency should be adequately trained to remain calm and be able to communicate clearly and calmly in any situation. I have heard many calls where this was not the case.

2. I think they do their jobs pretty well. The job seems to be law enforcement plus whatever else they have time and resources for.

I have the highest respect for the USCG, as well as our other armed services and assist them whenever possible.

3. If we all use proper radiotelephone procedure, we can ultimately get the word accurately. Where is it written that we are all entitled to perfectly clear reception from the USCG (or anyone else) on first transmission?

Ultimately, in my book, isn't good enough when lives may be at stake. I don't think that it would be good enough, for example, for an air traffic controller to "ultimately" make themselves understood. In some cases, such as emergencies, every effort should be made to be clearly understood the first time.
Reception is a variable based on many factors which are out of the control of the CG.

4. There are no guarantees of anything at sea. You'd better be prepared. If someone shows up to help, that's great, but even the USCG can't make a promise to do so every time.

I agree, but wouldn't it be a good thing if by making minor changes in the radio procedures more people were able to "show up" and assist you if you were in the water or sinking? Two years ago a pilot from our island went down in the water and died of hypothermia within 40 minutes, his younger passenger survived after being pulled from the water by a boater that responded to a call (telephone). There is not a moment to lose in some cases.

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Aren't you all being a little anal-retentive about the USCG?

1. They draw from the same pool of young talent as everyone else.
2. I think they do their jobs pretty well. The job seems to be law enforcement plus whatever else they have time and resources for.
3. If we all use proper radiotelephone procedure, we can ultimately get the word accurately. Where is it written that we are all entitled to perfectly clear reception from the USCG (or anyone else) on first transmission?
4. There are no guarantees of anything at sea. You'd better be prepared. If someone shows up to help, that's great, but even the USCG can't make a promise to do so every time.
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I think that since the S/V Morning Dew (google it I can't post a link yet) the USCG has done a great job (as they always have)

Between calls the guys at the fire station play basketball and I have never seen them miss a call.

BTW I am a pilot and all my exchanges with USCG while circleing over sailors in trouble comming too and from the Bahamas have been professional and concise.

To all our services, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR NATION!
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Too bad we don't have a "beat the dead horse" icon... I was just adding my 2 cents about how good and professional every USCG crew I have ever come across.

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Too bad we don't have a "beat the dead horse" icon... I was just adding my 2 cents about how good and professional every USCG crew I have ever come across.

Be well
Thankyou (Tango Uniform) I read your post and was reflecting with it in mind.
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